Please tell me what 'freeform' music is?

[disco diva]

Freeform, IMO is as cheeky says fast/hard trance & is wicked ;)

[Tony]

who was taking the piss?? i was being catergoric.
of all the names they could come up with for a genre that one really diesnt fit, therefore opeing it up to further ridicule, especially when discussed on a techno board.

[~cheeky~]

ok you have a point but he only wanted an explanation.

because of the peeps replys posts serox is now under the impression freeform is shit.
isnt that for him to decide?

im sorry but it does annoy me the way ppl post about styles they dont like.

[jonnyspeed]

who was taking the piss?? i was being catergoric.
of all the names they could come up with for a genre that one really diesnt fit, therefore opeing it up to further ridicule, especially when discussed on a techno board.

please everybody listen to Tony. he is 100% right.

if trance/hard house has knicked the name to describe a fusion then its just cross-over and properly not the most appropriate use of the term.

Freeform is not pre-programmed so can not be trance, hard house etc. unless it it played completely played off the cuff based on nothing but an underlying rhythm. the nearest thing to freeform techno that I have heard is cannibal cooking club live because its live playing of hardware that goes all over the place in no predetermined manner but works because it fits to the underlying rhythm.

peace

[miss bass]

who was taking the piss?? i was being catergoric.
of all the names they could come up with for a genre that one really diesnt fit, therefore opeing it up to further ridicule, especially when discussed on a techno board.

please everybody listen to Tony. he is 100% right.

if trance/hard house has knicked the name to describe a fusion then its just cross-over and properly not the most appropriate use of the term.

Freeform is not pre-programmed so can not be trance, hard house etc. unless it it played completely played off the cuff based on nothing but an underlying rhythm. the nearest thing to freeform techno that I have heard is cannibal cooking club live because its live playing of hardware that goes all over the place in no predetermined manner but works because it fits to the underlying rhythm.

peace

well personally im not a trancey / hard housey person so wont be listening to that 'genre' anyway.

Freeform is definately just like impro id say just from the word.

I love jazz. Amazing music. Want to be able to improvise like that on a piano. Dont know why i just enjoy tinkling away :)

[Tony]

the nearest thing to freeform techno that I have heard is cannibal cooking club live because its live playing of hardware that goes all over the place in no predetermined manner but works because it fits to the underlying rhythm.

peace

totally agree, its such a bizarre genre. theres a lot of wonk which is just static midi arrangements, bit of pitch modulation, distortion and discordance. but then theres tracks which are clearly programmed, so you know there is a smpte/midi clock running underneath, but the actual patterns they've programmed are 1 never the same twice though contain the same samples and elements 2 are almost never in the obvious rhythmical places, 16ths 8ths etc, and then you think ooh, its gonna do that, and it doesnt!! so yeah it does almost become jazz.

boom, tiss, boom, tiss it aint!!!! :dontevengothere:

[The Overfiend]

I'm with Tony 210% to be honest.
His explanation was the most intelligent by far.

[Tony]

i apreciate this form of music can exist, and cheeky, by all means you rock your little sox off to it. but to hijack a word which does not lead the mind to the outcome seems crazy. hey, while we're here lets call it IDM.
!?!?!?!?!?!?
it just doesnt fit! :?: :?:
even calling the wonk that is cannibal cooking crew 'freeform' would sit uneasy for me. it could be rationalised so, but its still, hmmm, i dont know, just NOT THERE.

[jonnyspeed]

..was meaning only the live stuff, tony. I agree the records are weard but not freeform.

peace

[jonnyspeed]

hmmm. jazz. nice.

[Tony]

groovy!!!


and yeah, fear not, we're all still in agreement.

[Cat]

I play a lot of Freeform, and freeform is what it's called. I don't know why it's called that, because as Tony pointed out, freeform is (also) a form of improvised music that fits no particular 'form'!

Freeform (the stuff we are talking about here) is what you might describe as fast hard trance. It has long breakdowns (probably to recover from the mania of the body of the tune!) and is best taken with a large dose of 303's!! (IMO)

It is to hard trance what Happy Hardcore is to hard house, although freeform came after hard trance. It's rising in popularity, especially productions from E-NRG, Kev Energy, Carbon-Based, Lost Soul, K Complex and Mark Ashley.

If you'd like to check out what it's all about feel free to download this:

http://mixes.catjane.co.uk/Cat.mp3

[oldbugger]

long breakdowns....how annoying

[jonnyspeed]

prefer my breaks to be between 2 to 8 bars myself and lots of mash-up rhythms all the way through

[zigojacko]

Freeform? Is this some new sub genre of hard house?

:lol:

[The Overfiend]

Tony said it best. I swear sometimes people type just to say something useless. As far as I'm concerned for the serious musical individuals, Tony Still said it best.

[serox]

i dont really like to bring in msg's from other forums but this one really made me laugh. coming from the guy who was teaching me on this new genre of music like it was going to change the world.



by sinc

Hahahahahah - The majority of posters on BOA are punters, with the occasion producer thrown in. The main producers on the site are Mark EG, Jon the Baptist and Iain Cross.

Compare that to Jon Doe, Billy Bunter, David Craig, Mark Tyler, Chris C, and if you choose to include Guyver and Karim then you can see that BT has the broadest terms of coverage when it comes to genre.

Serox, you are talking out of your arse!

[Sincs]

I am being schooled by som1 who mixes this music. He is letting me know that the music he mixes will be remembered for longer than tracks like Energy Flash, Jesus loves acid and Mentasm etc.

I NEVER SAID THAT YOU TWAT!

Jesus talk about twsting words!

What my point was/is that the sound of hoovers is now unoriginal, and on the very rare occasion does a producer do something inventive with this sound, which if used right, cant be awesome!

Acid is the same, it is an old sound (hense unoriginal), but producers are using it in many different ways.. Bass lines, melodies, percussion, stabs etc etc.

As for the old "rave era" classics, these will be around for a long time to come, but there are always new tunes being made in all genres being made, and a certain percentage (no matter how small) WILL become classics, and remembered for a long time.. 9 bar for instance!

As for freeform being associated with JAZZ. WTF?? Let me guess, you have never listened to it?

Thats like saying Techno is associated with the bloody wurzels.

Mark, I know you like to keep this forum happy, (and in someways this actually works against the forum) but this has to be said. I will not have my name dragged through shit just because someone is upset because he feels I am "educating" him.

So Serox, if you are man enough, take this on the chin, because you really (and from the looks of it, most of the people who have replied to this thread) haven't got a clue. You even had a go against Hardstyle, both times it is apparent that you don't listen to the music, so how can you have a strong enough viewpoint to comment on it?

GROW UP!

[TechnoRaver]

Yeh this genre is probably labelled wrong, but its got more potential than any dance music genre at the moment.
freefrom isnt just sped up hard trance, youve got quite a few tracks which come very close to hardcore techno.
To be honest uf you can find techno interesting you must be able to find something you like in freeform.

[Tony]

well, i cant really comment anymore cos i'm just a punter, and due to the fact that noone else on here is a producer except mark and a few others, and none of us know anything about anything, we really dont have any opinion at all.................................

:!:


what a loser!!!

did you read any of the messages above??

sorry to technoraver, as you seem to have your heart in the right place, this next comment might seem aimed at you, but its to highlight to comedy know it all man.
understand that you're dealing with a tiny weeny microcosm of music that will make as much of a dent on the musical world as a bug makes to the window of an articulated lorry, whatever you choose to call it, and however misappropriated the word is.

yes, i have never listened to this new oxymoron of a dance music called 'freeform' because even your descriptions contain styles of music that i am not interested in at all.