Surgeon´s gear?

[torres28]

Hi;

I am curious about the gear used by Surgeon before his sound change on La Real record to now.

I´ve been that he used a Sequential Circuits Prophet 2002 + ( an old 12 bits with analogue filters sampler ) and cheap yamaha and korg digital synths before he went on the soft side.

Any gossip?

Poder Latino

[go|plastic]

I know he uses Native Instruments Reaktor

http://www.native-instruments.com/index.php?surgeon_us

[torres28]

Perhaps now, Those distorted sounds thay British murder boys uses are a so much virtual and digital...

Regis and Surgeon´s sound has sank since they use all that virtual crap.

Even after the best mastering studios they BMB recordings sound like bad demos..

[torres28]

Thanks by the link man, I knew thhis old sound was the TX,he´s got a pcm 91 and a eventide ... but his reverbs sound like crap. mmmm Interesting...

[sash]

"What still excites you about this style of music (techno)?

Surgeon - I still feel that so much more can be done with Techno, there's no point in releasing the same thing again and again. Techno can be anything you want it to be, I think too many people restrict Techno by giving it a very narrow set of rules to follow, I like impure Techno. "

Nice reply

[torres28]

I think too many people restrict Techno by giving it a very narrow set of rules to follow,
Nice reply [/quote]

Sorry , I like patterns/cliches ,like the advent,old adam beyer ,old 303 acid,minimal techno 96-2000,old surgeon,HO,regis records and everything that sounds to step sequencer and analogue or early FM synths.

[dirty_bass]

Techno isn`t about old
It`s about New

[DJZeMigL]

I'd say Logic/ FM7/ reaktor/ live and probably some other softsynths mainly !

I think he used 2 use a Ensonic dp4 for verbs!

Z

[torres28]

[quote="DJ Ze Mig L"]I'd say Logic/ FM7/ reaktor/ live and probably some other softsynths mainly !

I think he used 2 use a Ensonic dp4 for verbs!

That is possible,I got one DP4 several years ago and got horified for that crap, I couldn´t believe all the greats were using that garbagee,just the delays were usable...

What about the pcm91 and his eventide,is just a bluf?

[DJZeMigL]

can't really tel amigo but I think Surgeon has never been much of a gear buff/ collector... I think he loves 2 wack the crap out of small/ "simpler" gear... I know he has a love for FM stuff!

Z

[torres28]

yes he is a FM freak, I thing he has never used an analogue synth, I remember when I was a rookie and tried to imitate his FM leads with my top notch analogues,until I realised it was impossible an discovered later fm ,I couldn´t belivev in the analogue hyoe era that those sounds were coming from those cheap yamaha synths..

I learn several yeras ago that he was using too a Korg 707,another fm synth,regis got an yamaha tg 33 too.

[Komplex]

I love fm synthesis, its so flexible. I'm looking around for a Yamaha FS1R at the moment. It's a more recent (5 years old?) fm style synth and from audio samples that I've heard, it sounds very tasty :)

Do any of you guys own one and could give me some more feedback about it?

[torres28]

Yes , I myself have an FS1R very cool unit,but bad user interface.

You need an editor almost for turning on the power....

The timbre is not as cold and low end as on old 12 bit yamahas ,it's closely to the Nord lead 2

[Komplex]

Yes, Ive heard about the editing interface. Aparently there is an editor you can download which is for the FS1r and it isn't sound-diver.

How many patches can you store in the internal memory?
It would be useful to spend a few days making good patches with the editor and then having a few hundred good sounds to work with straight out of the box...

[The Overfiend]

Why care about what "they" are using and not get on with what YOU do?
Ciao Hermano. ;)

[dirty_bass]

I know this is the geek part of the forum, but this is getting too much.

[g]

the funny thing is sooner or later you realize there's really only a handful of different types of gear and we all already know what they are. bunch of stuff that does the same thing with very slight variations in different packages. he uses one of those.

[dirty_bass]

Bring me the machine that goes "BING"

[torres28]

How many patches can you store in the internal memory?

128 in the strange multi mode and 99 or 128 not sure for plain patches(sounds) but you can bulk them with the editor...

It would be useful to spend a few days making good patches with the editor and then having a few hundred good sounds to work with straight out of the box...

Yes, I spent months with it and it´s ready for waaaaar

The editor you said is by far the best editor I have ever seen,really but just for mac os 9 that I know.

[torres28]

[quote="SummerOfSam"]Why care about what "they" are using and not get on with what YOU do?
Ciao Hermano. ;)

Hola primo;

It's just curiosity, perhaps when I was learning to produce I wanted to sound like this,the other... but now I have my own sound.I can say that I sold the Virus C because it was cool but not my sound,and I guess almost everyone in this bussiness have one ,as everyone had an SH-101 several years ago.

You just learn hearing machines.Was upon a time...in the analogue hype age that I could recognice almost every analogue synth in a record (91-96)

let´s say I am a fetish man ...

Hasta luego