and:Originally Posted by djcorbzy
blade attack
club attack
soulfighter
dj cyglas (as far as i know thats kramer on his own)
and probably shitloads more too!
in my opinion their formula is starting to sound a little tired now on some tracks, but its testament to its quality that he's been able to rinse it for like three or four years now without it becoming stale... but for me it takes a little bit away from the impact that the older tunes have, as you've heard the ideas (that "hoo-wap" noise, the big snare rolls, the roll on the claps, the structure is exactly the same on practically all of em) so many times since that when you listen back to the classics it makes them sound dated and cliched... it just seems to me that his heart isnt really in the trance nowadays, ands he's more interested in the techno he's making (which is proper as fukk).