Jeff Mills @ Jam last night

[romelpotter]

i vote this reply for the dumbass reply of the year.

Miromiric i thank you for your vote of dumbass reply of the year, my reply is one i feel strongly about and as i said is only my opinion. so if my opinion to you is dumbass then I can live with that as it is my opinion. If you were to comment and let us know your thinking on the matter, then it might make for a more interesting thread.

[Fake DJ]

with regard to the fake DJ asking about the piano tune - Strings of Life perhaps? I don't remember him playing many other tunes with big piano riffs, and it was a new remix of it that he played at the jam.
I can't remember if its on Liquid Rooms or not though.

that be the one!

[romelpotter]

with regard to the fake DJ asking about the piano tune - Strings of Life perhaps? I don't remember him playing many other tunes with big piano riffs, and it was a new remix of it that he played at the jam.
I can't remember if its on Liquid Rooms or not though.

yea it was string of life, and it was on the liquid rooms, but it was a different mix he played at the jam, the bass sounded a lot fatter, it was cool.

[Miromiric]

romel, when someone plays on ableton or whatever he is actually doing something and not just standing there. imho it is much more exciting musicalwise then decks. you need to start listening and stop rationalizing.

[Fake DJ]

with regard to the fake DJ asking about the piano tune - Strings of Life perhaps? I don't remember him playing many other tunes with big piano riffs, and it was a new remix of it that he played at the jam.
I can't remember if its on Liquid Rooms or not though.

yea it was string of life, and it was on the liquid rooms, but it was a different mix he played at the jam, the bass sounded a lot fatter, it was cool.

yeah and the strings sounded a little cleaner and fresher!! it ****in rocked!! but cudnt beat energy flash....actually it wasnt ebergy flash i dont think but a remix of it using the samples, any1 know wat it is

[romelpotter]

romel, when someone plays on ableton or whatever he is actually doing something and not just standing there. imho it is much more exciting musicalwise then decks. you need to start listening and stop rationalizing.

playing live or djing on cd decks or records what ever ya cup of tea you are never just standing there, i understand that. I did listen and i said it sounded good, and i am in no doubt that the people who were rocking on the dance floor enjoyed it. maybe your right and i do need to start listening, but i didn't get excited when i saw him plug in his laptop, i didn't get as excited as when i see someone about to go mental behind the decks, thats just me. the musics the same 2 channel stereo feed coming from laptop or decks at the end of the day. imo its a performance that makes the difference.

[Miromiric]

fair enough.
but performance is g.h.e.y.only what matters is music and nothing else!

[oldbugger]

the way i see it is whatever comes out of the speakers is what matters. How that sound is produced is totally irrelivant.

Using ableton live or similiar is much more creative than playing someone elses tunes all night.

[Alan Oldham]

I have to disagree w/ Danny. I saw Surgeon do his Ableton Live show last year at Split and thought it was the most innovative thing I had ever seen.

The way I look at it is Surgeon has proven globally that he can spin and make hot tracks so if he wants to take the next step more power to him.

And he is still ACTUALLY MIXING, he's just not using decks to do it. If the idea is virtual DJing than this is far better than Final Scratch. With FS you still need vinyl and decks

And sorry guys, showmanship counts

[Stella Boy]

Techno can be so anal sometimes. The amount of discussions and threads about the use of software instead of playing vinyl is getting rather boring. It's a DJ's choice on what he/she wants to use. We are all into this scene for techno music and, yes, it's great when you see a DJ interacting with the crowd in between mixes but surely it's the music that counts. I couldn't give a rats ass if the dj's bouncing like pogo stick all night or stood motionless, it's the end result that counts and you can't fault Surgeon for that.

[romelpotter]

hmmm ok so maybe using ableton live (certanly in the hands of the surgoen) is innovitve and the embrase of modern technology is good most of the time, and yes no matter how you perform be it djing or live, if the stuff thats coming out of the speaker is dull, lifeless and poor, then the crowd that has paid hard earned cash to see you will be disapointed and rightly so. So i guess both have to be above standard to please the crowd. btw i did think the music the surgoen was playing was absolutly rocking, for me its just the laptop thing, :lol:

[killarava2day]

What's this ableton program that's being refered to in this discussion? Is this similar to cubase, etc...better than?

[romelpotter]

check it out at http://www.ableton.com/

[tioneb]

this jeff mills thread is quite funny =) i think he is th eoposite of surgeon and they both are good djs ... glad to see people likeboth ... for the otehrs, slagging each other, i just think its a bit useless.

Mills visual part is part of his performance, and that makes us forgive his sloppyness.... surgeon moves like if he is playing a CD, and the fact hes using ableton doents help, but hes doing something creative and mixes in a way noboy else does...

i just think we should focus to the final result (visual AND music) and i think these two djs provide us some of the best we can hear these days

about people's behaviour i met both sims & finke for a couple of minutes at the same times. yeah finke si talkative and very nice. yes sims is pretty quiet, but not arrogant ... elts say a party is no tthe best place to meet them, they're pretty busy enough not to be able to spend hours with their fans.. i think meeting in a quiet place or eat with them at a restaurant would make us ave a better idea of who they are.

[oldbugger]

What's this ableton program that's being refered to in this discussion? Is this similar to cubase, etc...better than?

i have a copy anyone with soulseek can download from me if they like...
coz i certinly cant get my head round the thing.

cue slagging from the piracy police :dontevengothere:

[eyes without a face]

i saw Mills at Creamfields on the saturday and i must say i thought he was really good! a little sloppy at times but for me personally i let this go over my head, the music more than makes up for it as does the atmosphere that Jeff incites in the crowd.

as for Finkey and Sims, agreed, both are down to earth and easy going guys, big up to em!

[Frank Dogshit]

As for Mills, he hardly moved or cracked a smile either (as per usual) but his hands were flying all over the place, with predictable results - absolutely bangin. I've heard him play better, but when he's average, I reckon he's still better than most.

i have video evidence to prove otherwise ;)

. But I must say, Surgeon is not exactly the most animated of performers, in fact he hardly moved at all for the full two hours of his set, .

also there is a tune that mills played bout 2/3 of way thru his set, its got a very piano riff and has been used in quite a few other tunes, but cant for the life of me think wat it is? no its not the best of descritpions but thats all i can

i got a vid off it but cant find put it on here anyway, im settin my comp up as a server so might b able to then

how can anyone thats interested in techno not know what strings of life is?

hard house alert.

[massplanck]

how can anyone thats interested in techno not know what strings of life is?

hard house alert.

Because they are stupid idiots who obviously should have been born with this information.

[oldbugger]

how can anyone thats interested in techno not know what strings of life is?

isn't t some oldskool bollocks?

hahahaha quality....to be honest i too am amazed at anyone who has a slight intrest in techno doesnt know what strings of life is...

[tioneb]

how can anyone thats interested in techno not know what strings of life is?

isn't t some oldskool bollocks?

hahahaha quality....to be honest i too am amazed at anyone who has a slight intrest in techno doesnt know what strings of life is...

who is derrick may ?

what is a dj ?

do still people listen to vinyl ??? isnt it outdated ???? do people actually issue vinyl ??