Jeff Mills @ Jam last night

[Remade]

Surgeons' wife was only doing a crossword because she was bored with his abelton set. He personally told me that he'll be bringing an albino python onstage with him next time and will also get his wife to tongue madonna behind the decks if it will help make people dance\like him more.

:lol:

[romelpotter]

fair enough.
but performance is g.h.e.y.only what matters is music and nothing else!

TRUE. Some ppl need to start listening and stop gazing. Its what comes out the speakers that counts. Most techno artists dont care about image, so being animated is irrelevant, Surgeon has seen it, been it, is it and bought the t-shirt, laptops are going to be more prevalant in clubs as a standard format, so chill on the laptop versus vinyl tip its nothing but sad trainspotter behaviour, look behind you and see everyone else enjoying themselves, thats what its about, its not a catwalk fashion show, its music. LISTEN. ;)

nothing but sad trainspotting behaviour !!!! RIGHT picture this, in your eyes the worlds top dj's and every single aspiring dj turn up to play gigs with their laptop. To which they play music they have downloaded off the net as mp3/maybe their own stuff. IF this is the case for every dj as you say, and no one buys records then tell me,,, how do the artists that make tracks, music and all the stuff you want to download get paid ???? how do they continue to make music ??? do not tell me that people will buy the files from dedicated download sites coz we all know that wont happen.
Whats going to happen if nobody gets paid,,, you tell me mate. ALSO
It doesnt matter if you gaze, listen or fucking suck your thumb and shove it up your ass, the most important thing is that you ENJOY whatever it is you have gone into the club to do. so if you enjoy gazing then gaze..etc.

[Miromiric]

i ll tell you what happens if nobody gets paid.

only those who make music out of pure reasons stay in it and continue to make music.

[dirty_bass]

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i ll tell you what happens if nobody gets paid.

only those who make music out of pure reasons stay in it and continue to make music

How will these musicians survive and pay the rent?
By spending there lives working in a shitty job, that takes their focus away form their art?
To exell at an art you need to be able to devote all your time to it.
Not use it as a weekend hobby, and break from your suck-ass job.
Part time isn`t good enough.

[zan]

fair enough.
but performance is g.h.e.y.only what matters is music and nothing else!

TRUE. Some ppl need to start listening and stop gazing. Its what comes out the speakers that counts. Most techno artists dont care about image, so being animated is irrelevant, Surgeon has seen it, been it, is it and bought the t-shirt, laptops are going to be more prevalant in clubs as a standard format, so chill on the laptop versus vinyl tip its nothing but sad trainspotter behaviour, look behind you and see everyone else enjoying themselves, thats what its about, its not a catwalk fashion show, its music. LISTEN. ;)

nothing but sad trainspotting behaviour !!!! RIGHT picture this, in your eyes the worlds top dj's and every single aspiring dj turn up to play gigs with their laptop. To which they play music they have downloaded off the net as mp3/maybe their own stuff. IF this is the case for every dj as you say, and no one buys records then tell me,,, how do the artists that make tracks, music and all the stuff you want to download get paid ???? how do they continue to make music ??? do not tell me that people will buy the files from dedicated download sites coz we all know that wont happen.
Whats going to happen if nobody gets paid,,, you tell me mate. ALSO
It doesnt matter if you gaze, listen or fucking suck your thumb and shove it up your ass, the most important thing is that you ENJOY whatever it is you have gone into the club to do. so if you enjoy gazing then gaze..etc.

Well, have I hit a raw nerve ? Are you admitting your'e a sad trainspotter that doesnt enjoy the music, because it doesnt to fit your concept of what a DJ has do, ie play only vinyl, how extremely narrow minded. Most labels nowadays are contemplating the inevitable death of vinyl, why do you think that there are so many digital distribution sites about, the market is mutating and changing, vinyl sales are down, EVERYONE is feeling the pinch, even those artists who have made a nice living out of there sales are feeling it, speak to any distributor / label and you willl hear the same story.The future will be digital distribution from label sites, so labels will make money this way and not through the vinyl distributors, believe you me, no one wants this, but thats life. Your ignorance or lack of foresight will leave you back in 2004. I love vinyl, but I accept that if not in 5 to 10 to 20 years, it will not be the standard format you will have so much faith in. Your purist stance on laptops is a joke. And if gazing is all you can do when you go to club, go for it. Each to there own. Just wake up as your business sense and knowledge of this industry is immature, if not jejune.

[Miromiric]

i agree, it must not be a part time. but go back and look at my answer to his hypothesis.

[zan]

And by the way, most of the artists I know who produce music have a job to pay the bills. If it was ever about making money from label sales to pay the bills, it definitely not now. Label sales pay for the next release and act as a promotional tool.

[Sunil]

What's going on ?
This was a thread about Jeff Mills playing at Atomic Jam, now it's about vinyl facing the crunch and music paying the bills? :lol:

[Miromiric]

surely and swiftly we changed the flow of the conversation, just like the sunset breeze pushes the leaf away.

[dirty_bass]

yeah, well, you can only talk about jeff mills for so long, and so many times, before your anus decides to take over and start flapping. and we all end up talking arse.
But my point is.
Yes, taking money out will get rid of a lot of tossers from the techno scene.
But it will also force a lot of people out of the game.
there is nothing wrong with getting paid for your talent.

[Sunil]

I know threads go on a tangent but I reckon if we see one going in a completely different direction you should start a new topic, like I did with that 4 deck mixing one earlier :clap:
Unless you're involved with the thread from Day 1 it can be very annoying joining it only to find people are talking about something entirely diffrent to the subject at hand. I'm just being thoughtful here btw. Don't hate me for it!

[ampassasinbirmingham]

I know threads go on a tangent but I reckon if we see one going in a completely different direction you should start a new topic, like I did with that 4 deck mixing one earlier :clap:
Unless you're involved with the thread from Day 1 it can be very annoying joining it only to find people are talking about something entirely diffrent to the subject at hand. I'm just being thoughtful here btw. Don't hate me for it!

i hate you for it because you smell of baby apple food

[Miromiric]

thats what we have moderators for and split topic option ;=)

[dirty_bass]

baaaah humbug

[Fake DJ]

all i sed was jeff mills was awesome, surgeon played a mean abelton set and i wasnt looking forward to work

which in actual fact was the best day at work i ever had, jus carried the sesh on!!!! hahaha

sold creamfields tickets that we got free so bought some champagne and the only other thng to go with it ;) ;)

and the rest they say is history!!! :lol:

any1 know next jam lineup??

[romelpotter]

right zan i have said all i have to say on the matter, If you want to continue this discussion then send me a pm, otherwise i am off to find a mac and a jotter

[The Overfiend]

How about some f*cking respect for one another?