are DJ'ing salaries overrated?

[tekara]

just curious and wanted to hear some opinions of other DJ's and producers on this forum of what they think about the salaries that DJ's receive for gigs.

It seems quite obvious that pressing vinyl wont make u any money, and in some extreme cases you may actually lose money for each release depending on how much your distributors are ripping you off.

But ive noticed that alot of people are pumping out releases in an attempt to glorify themselves as a DJ. I dont really have a problem with that as long as the music's good. Afterall, anything goes as long as the music is good because thats what its all about.

However im actually curious from people that have experience in this field as to whether the pay a DJ gets on a monthly basis is actually good or totally overrated??

Im assuming your booking agency will probably get a shitload of every gig you do. Ive tried estimating how much big DJ's make and some of the bigger guys may charge up to 1000USD-2000USD an hour. Many of these DJ's will have 2-8 gigs in a month.

Do people actually make a GOOD living out of this?

extermely curious and would like to hear some input on this subject.


cheers

[subsonic]

im sure some dj's realy do ern a good living the ones that dont change the earth and get regular bookings like mark eg dave the drummer chris liberator that seem to be playing out at least 6 times a month

but then you people like
dave angal dave clarke jeff mills that charge the earth but only play out about 12 times a year if that

[eyes without a face]

DC is one of the busiest djs around, he does around 6 - 8 gigs a month and has done for the past 8, 9 years... but its true there are some other big names who charge probably even more than Clarke and get less gigs... techno is not the biggest earning field by a long way tho... some of the prog djs like Sasha, Digweed have been known to regulary pick up sums like £15,000 - £20,000 per set.. thats absolutely stupid (especially for the skillz these guys have i.e none)

tis a funny game the old Djing, u might think current dj fee's are inflated and stupid, but on the other hand if u were getting offered it, would u take it? ;)

[borisXHL]

forgive my ignorance but what is the dj's salary ? ;)

[subsonic]

DC is one of the busiest djs around, he does around 6 - 8 gigs a month and has done for the past 8, 9 years... but its true there are some other big names who charge probably even more than Clarke and get less gigs... techno is not the biggest earning field by a long way tho... some of the prog djs like Sasha, Digweed have been known to regulary pick up sums like £15,000 - £20,000 per set.. thats absolutely stupid (especially for the skillz these guys have i.e none)

tis a funny game the old Djing, u might think current dj fee's are inflated and stupid, but on the other hand if u were getting offered it, would u take it? ;)

i think dj fees should not be a standard fee
i think thay should be payed by the numbers
i.e
if youre venue holds 2000 or more you give them a min fee if the punters fill the venue then you pay them more
you get me and if the venue only holds like 100-300 people the fee has got to drop as the night would not be able to afford to run unless they charge the earth for people to come witch in turn means low numbers coz peeps dont want to pay silly money to go out

thats just my thoughts any ways ;)

[G-whizz]

DC is one of the busiest djs around, he does around 6 - 8 gigs a month and has done for the past 8, 9 years... but its true there are some other big names who charge probably even more than Clarke and get less gigs... techno is not the biggest earning field by a long way tho... some of the prog djs like Sasha, Digweed have been known to regulary pick up sums like £15,000 - £20,000 per set.. thats absolutely stupid (especially for the skillz these guys have i.e none)

tis a funny game the old Djing, u might think current dj fee's are inflated and stupid, but on the other hand if u were getting offered it, would u take it? ;)

i think dj fees should not be a standard fee
i think thay should be payed by the numbers
i.e
if youre venue holds 2000 or more you give them a min fee if the punters fill the venue then you pay them more
you get me and if the venue only holds like 100-300 people the fee has got to drop as the night would not be able to afford to run unless they charge the earth for people to come witch in turn means low numbers coz peeps dont want to pay silly money to go out

thats just my thoughts any ways ;)

it makes sense ! I`m with you on that one :clap:
and thats what dave the drummer and chris liberator etc do if I remember correctly ...

[Buttman]

Dave Clarke is NOT worth his 12.000€ + expenses.

[eyes without a face]

unfortunately buttman id have to agree with u these days.... there was a time when i thought techno started and ended with Dave Clarke, but there are alot more Djs out there today who are trying alot more exciting things and generaly causing more of a stir for the right reasons....

back on topic tho now hehe.......

[Miromiric]

if someone gets 503453€ for a gig and tickets are sold out then yes, he deserves that kind of money.

[subsonic]

if someone gets 503453€ for a gig and tickets are sold out then yes, he deserves that kind of money.

thats what i was saying but if the night has not done to well then the artests need to lower there wage demands compramise you know

[subsonic]

i know there jocks out there that help all they can and if they see its not a good turn out they say no worries but there are some who just dont care
and take you to the cleaners :roll:

[gumpy green]

techno did not start out as a commercial thingy....

i fukin hate all these cunts that are taking it this direction......yall be the end of the proper techno vibe.

the best vibe at partys ive experienced are the free party/raves...

usually the atmosphere at such event like creamfileds-bugged out is pish comparred to the vibe we get up here at underground partys.....

and to tell the truth id easily hold my own againts dave c etc if i had to battle them.....if not show em up.

and ill play for a free holiday/weekend and some good banter.

[tioneb]

well its like in football or furmula one. do the djs desserve the money for what they do of for what they make earn to promoters ????

schumacher earns shitloads of money, but its nothing compared to what the tvs and federations can get with all the incomes...

thats the same for a dj.... whatever he does (everybopdy will agree oakie does crap compared to Mills or Clarke) the dj will get what he knows he can ask...

In Ibiza the parties can hold thousands of people and they charge the entrance sometime sover 30€ ... and i dont count the bar incomes. So whats the problem asking over 15000€ for a gig if youre called Mills or Cox ?????

hey man , i know some people who got Laurent Garnier for 300-500 people clubs... do you think he asks as much as he can ask for a 5000 people party. Beleive me, its deffo NOT the same.

thats sad and cynical, but we live in a cpitalistic and liberal world, even in music. That totally logic to ask big amounts of money if people get shitloads more on your head.

The stupid thing is the DJs who refuse playing in small clubs because they give them smaller fees.

[tekara]

somebody told me that booking agencies can take up as many as 30% of each gig they introduce u to.

that is CRAZY RIPOFF!!

[subsonic]

somebody told me that booking agencies can take up as many as 30% of each gig they introduce u to.

that is CRAZY RIPOFF!!

normaly about 10-15% as fare as i have known but 30% is way to much

[Buttman]

I guess herr. Clarke also deserves to be a cocky cunt who refuses to play if his favourite cigar is not available. Not to mention that his hotel costs 3000 EURO/night and that he only accepts drivers who use a special model of Mercedes?

[schlongfingers]

I guess herr. Clarke also deserves to be a cocky cunt who refuses to play if his favourite cigar is not available. Not to mention that his hotel costs 3000 EURO/night and that he only accepts drivers who use a special model of Mercedes?

er, that's VERY debatable - far more deserving DJs these days.

[Frank Dogshit]

I guess herr. Clarke also deserves to be a cocky cunt who refuses to play if his favourite cigar is not available. Not to mention that his hotel costs 3000 EURO/night and that he only accepts drivers who use a special model of Mercedes?

what about armand van helden?doesnt request 1 hotel room but 2!!! :roll:

[Buttman]

I guess herr. Clarke also deserves to be a cocky cunt who refuses to play if his favourite cigar is not available. Not to mention that his hotel costs 3000 EURO/night and that he only accepts drivers who use a special model of Mercedes?

what about armand van helden?doesnt request 1 hotel room but 2!!! :roll:

Who is Armand Van Helden and anyways who wants to share room/bed with ones manager?

[schlongfingers]

Armand Van Helden is great though :D and he'd REALLY fill a club up if that's what everyone cares about most. And with attractive women. And the music would be good ;-)