Please Read - Re: Claude Young

[eyes without a face]

Claude was infact reffering to Frank Dogshit when he meant the guy sticking up for Circuito dude, and yes the point was made, but i was replying to Frank's other comment, so ;) right back u

[jonnyspeed]

we gonna lock this one up, sam?

[Miromiric]

no, please,noooo. why do you have to lock up every fight?

[samba]

I'm sure I read on another board that Claude Young was retiring from techno altogether??? (maybe littledetroit.com but im really not sure)

umm not that long ago either... :?:

Hard to tell the full story here. Sure Circuito wouldnt have posted so malicously if he didnt feel he had been properly screwed around... Theyve had a shit load of success bringing out to Brasil many other of the worlds best techno djs. Must be a good promoter.

Poor form with the email though, but umm yeah quite a lot of drama queen antics tho eh?

[eyes without a face]

i think this needs locking up too, both parties involved had their say this afternoon and its over with

[circuito]

Guys,

I apologize to all users for not strictly following the rules of the forum. I will not discuss any private matters here again.

I think this is an electronic music forum, and every kind of issue should be discussed - if people have the proof to back it up.

The techno scene is made up of many elements - artists, promoters, audience - and I think it´s healthy when people discuss each other´s work.

We always hear horrible stories about DJs who play in some clubs and don't get paid, or get treated badly. But very rarely does anyone discuss the stress and financial difficulties promoters go through when an artist does not show up for a gig.

For this particular gig, we had already paid for 60,000 flyers, 1,000 posters, 100 T-shirts, and over 200 radio ads. We work very hard and we think we - and our audience - deserve some decent explanation when an artist cancels a gig.

Circuito is and independent party. We don't have corporate sponsorhip. We depend on the audience to keep going. We are three friends who love techno and we have always treated every single artist with respect. In three years, we brought 35 foreign artists to Brasil, and every artist that has ever played for us said he wished to come back. I'm sure it will continue to be this way.

Best,
Andre

[djsirround]

wouldn't be better to reply my private message? we got your point ;) :clap: :clap: :lol: :lol: :lol:

what about the laptop stolen of Mr Young?

[davethedrummer]

Dear Buttman,

I respect your opinion, but I disagree. I had to explain to the Circuito audience (many of whom are users here) why mr. Young was not coming to our party.

I have no fear of "getting in trouble", because everything I posted is absolutely true. We have worked hard to bring great techno artists to Brasil for three years now, we are very proud of our work, and I stand by every word I wrote.

Best,
Andre

andre you are way way way out of line here!
e-mail claude in private , this is a FORUM where people discuss ideas and music.
not a place to get into these kinds of details.
shit happens right
and if tis kind of thing were aimed at me on this forum i would be most upset , as it is the one place i really enjoy hanging out and shooting the shit with some friends.

so anyways welcome to the board
but keep within the framework please!

padlock?

[g]

andre: shut up already. as has already been explained to you many times you are handling a private matter publicly. that is not acceptable behavior here, no matter how just you may think your position is.

claude: maybe these guys should get christian vogel instead. :lol: :lol:
just do your thing and forget about this noise. and we're all truly sorry, again, about your laptop. that sh*t is wack.

[Honeey]

The reason we even have an electronic music scene and parties on this earth is because of the people who have paved the way musically for us with their courage and vision.

RESPECT

nuf said

[lunatrick]

erm nobody died did they? good

I'm glad this topic wasn't padlocked - i mean i agree with having a framework for a forum - but also freedom of speech is important isn't it? - it's not as though the parties involved weren't both able to represent themselves. dj's / parties / promotion - it's a risky business - it's not a career in chartered accountancy is it? no idea about the details so don't have an opinion - but with the best will in the world I'm sure we've all had times where things got misunderstood or blown out of proportion for whatever reason...

[Antinoise]

Ok.. no padlock needed.. but does this post still need to be sticky at the top. Lets it fade down the list as it may.

[djsirround]

still don't have any reply in my PM circuito, send it hero! joking heheh its nothing important people heheh :lol: :lol:

[OriginalTechnobastard]

a guy loses laptop, fans respond, promoter mad, fans respond, artist mad cause of promoter mad, fans mad, promoter sorry.... HEheehe

Anyhow people have been to quick to jump the gun, and too passionate without knowing the insides and out. I think everyone should be respected whether you are a dj or a promoter. They both sound like they are doing their best so shouldn`t disrespect either. I can understand concerns of both parties. I would be pissed of if some cancelled a gig without a decent explanation or have my business spilt over on the net. It just sounds like a case of miscommunication. Attention to Professionalism should be more wide spread :dontevengothere:

[Frank Dogshit]

a guy loses laptop, fans respond, promoter mad, fans respond, artist mad cause of promoter mad, fans mad, promoter sorry.... HEheehe

Anyhow people have been to quick to jump the gun, and too passionate without knowing the insides and out. I think everyone should be respected whether you are a dj or a promoter. They both sound like they are doing their best so shouldn`t disrespect either. I can understand concerns of both parties. I would be pissed of if some cancelled a gig without a decent explanation or have my business spilt over on the net. It just sounds like a case of miscommunication. Attention to Professionalism should be more wide spread :dontevengothere:

i agree with technobaastard with this one.claudes completely flown off the handle at me on this one when basically i was only suggesting that theres 2 sides to every story and I actually felt sorry for the promoter who had spent loads of cash to put on this party. From a punters perspective I know i would dissapointed if I was expecting Claude at the gig had been looking forward to the night for ages only to be disspointed in the end.

All people want to know is.....whos telling the truth?Has circuito not been kept in touch properly with claudes movements?

[Stella Boy]

All people want to know is.....whos telling the truth?Has circuito not been kept in touch properly with claudes movements?

With due respect, is this really relevant ?. It's between the promotor and the dj, nobody else. The promotor can simply inform everyone that the dj has cancelled ( as we did when Jay Denham cancelled 1 week before our event ) and the book someone else ( as we did ). What happens between the 2 parties has nothing to do with anyone else.

[Frank Dogshit]

aye id better shut up before i get nailed again.

[eyes without a face]

is this still going on?

[OriginalTechnobastard]

!Looking back on it, that email thing is blown out of proportion. I thought he listed his email address or something. He was just using the email to explain himself. And the audience in Brasil DO need a proper explanation. I mean the guy refer to Claude as legendary and Claude ends up calling him a prick. It should of been done privately but since its not And using Rush as an indication doesn`t mean anything because you never know why he pulled out.


Shady promoter suck though I am sure thats why this guy tries not to be one.

[eyes without a face]

the guy listed a personal email from Claude, thats what the email fuss was about

perhaps they should of both done this in the pm's section or between themselves, but it was circuitio who started the whole thing on this post so maybe they should of just left it alone and done it in private