tiago, without disrespecting the artists youve mentioned (i have records from all of them in my box) they are the exact types of techno producers that, in my opinion, lack the intelligence we talk about!

they are all very talented yes, but besides maybe Pet Duo who i think have the most talent there, but they also make some of the most less intelligent music thats out there i think... all good, but just doesnt have the thought and depth as say the likes of Wunsch, Mulero etc etc..... hardness but with darkkkneesss too, well thought out, deep, dark synth lines and programming