yeah, as much as i can see what ewaf is saying, i do think some of those clubs could be classed as 'swanky'.

bugged out used to do techno in sankeys, but then went decidely 'tech house' over the last years, and the cream associations have only helped the 'plastic techno swankyness'.

atomic has always catered for more 'commercial' techno tastes, and though cutting edge, doesnt really go that dark. ade fenton, wether he is like it or not, is received by most people i have ever talked to, as the most 'wannabe superstar' in modern techno. as i say, he might not feel he's done anyhting to push that image, but its definitely out there.

most of the venues for the clubs mentioned may not be super polished, but they are huge!!! and i'm fairly sure that they all charge over a tenner to get in. there is some considerable money being made, but some considerable fees being demanded by djs.

for me, i'd vote for superconductor, for keeping it so underground and unheard of whilst packing people in, and getting decent djs in as well.

but frankly....... its mixmag, they have no valid opinion whatsoever!!!
but i hope pure filth get some votes too :)