Question about Producers who dont spin?

[The Overfiend]

Yeah if you're coming out just to make the room look a little more full...
That's not the "support" I'd want.... I'd rather have 20 people who came because they genuinely want to hear the music.

Well put tocsin :clap:

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[Internal Error Records]

let me stoke the flames a little - -

techno has nothing to do with djing ;)


im a dj and producer/label owner, but as a label owner i figure every gig i spin is one less gig a potential customer of mine can be spinning.

[DJAmok]

ouch



Ontopic: I personally make a point out of buying every record I spin (and many more my poor wallet). Because there is no honour in playing pirate copies.

To the discussion about the word 'support': It is used becuase it evokes emotions, not for politics. Nobody asks for donations when they ask for support, as well as no one will ask for anything else, than that people buy the music they love. Nobody say you gotta buy music you don´t enjoy or which you think is generic, etc. But if you enjoy a track, get the original.

[AcidTrash]

I like a few supporters to help soak up some reverb in big venues.

[tocsin]

To oversimplify it, in NYC, "I'm here to support" usually translates to "I just did something for you and want something in return." That's not support. That's politics.

[Joseph Isaac]

To oversimplify it, in NYC, "I'm here to support" usually translates to "I just did something for you and want something in return." That's not support. That's politics.

I think that's nationwide with maybe a few exceptions...And its not just in techno, or electronic music, but in business in general.

[Internal Error Records]

To oversimplify it, in NYC, "I'm here to support" usually translates to "I just did something for you and want something in return." That's not support. That's politics.

dont get too much more clear than that.

i like support from people that come out, bring loads of friends, dance, drink alot and vomit in the corner.

[g]

To oversimplify it, in NYC, "I'm here to support" usually translates to "I just did something for you and want something in return." That's not support. That's politics.

too true.

as for the original question, i can't help but buy records/cds/mp3s/books/magazines/computers... it's what i love. i do buy a lot of other producers' stuff often knowing i could get it elsewhere eventually for less or for free. as long as records exist, i'll support those trying to get by with them. well, support those who do stuff i really like anyway. i'm not some kind of vinyl evangelist. as a format, it's a complete pain in the ass.

...to say nothing of my belief that i should be able to buy uncompressed audio files straight from the artist or label.

[viagratek]

To oversimplify it, in NYC, "I'm here to support" usually translates to "I just did something for you and want something in return." That's not support. That's politics.

I think that's nationwide with maybe a few exceptions...And its not just in techno, or electronic music, but in business in general.

PREACH!!!!! (and i aint talkin about the dj) :clap:

[GothamGrooves.com]

I hate the word "support" because it is so subjective. .

I don't think he meant do you all go out and throw your money at anything that has techno written on it... There are plenty of artists I dont like and I do not support them, in fact I have told them in some cases how they are fukin bullocks for pumping out shit music! lol, but for those I respect, I try to do my small part, be it buying a record of theirs that sounds good or paying for a party when they come to play( if I have some loot). We all for the most part are not rich where we can go and spend 1000's every week on music and parties. But big name or not it does take money to keep things going...

Just my lil opinion..

[GothamGrooves.com]

To oversimplify it, in NYC, "I'm here to support" usually translates to "I just did something for you and want something in return." That's not support. That's politics.

Umm that usually means come out to hear me play.. Whats so bad about that? Its called keeping the scene alive! I know soo many kids who sit in their basements, make great tunes & do nothing but bitch and moan about the scene. Yet when theres a good techno party they don't go out? That's what I call not supporting and hypocrisy...

[Internal Error Records]

techno needs more partiers and less soldiers.

back in 1992 if there was 100 people at a party, 1 was the dj and 99 were partiers. today if there are 100 people at a party 1 is the dj, 95 are dj's in waiting and 4 are partiers. and the 95 waiting djs are making fun of the 4 partiers outfits.

[GothamGrooves.com]

I completely agree, but thats also the U.S. scene...

[gary_human]

I miss the days of rollin' up to the local record store every weekend, stoned and listening to the latest releases. those days are long gone here. Our local shop hardly carry the hot off the press shit.... Shit they hardly even carry techno!

hehehe!!!

gosh . . how I miss them days too . . . the local shop(s) I first started to use now dont stock techno or just dont exist and it's a long trek to my nearest record shop and I dont wanna drive stoned anymore as I got paranoid and (is it) sensible?!!!

It's a lot easier to get records for me directly form the source or from the net.

Im just a DJ anyway (wanna be producer!) so not really relevant to the thread, I just wanted to answer back to that quote as memories came flooding back.

Sorry to stray from the topic

[The Overfiend]

techno needs more partiers and less soldiers.

back in 1992 if there was 100 people at a party, 1 was the dj and 99 were partiers. today if there are 100 people at a party 1 is the dj, 95 are dj's in waiting and 4 are partiers. and the 95 waiting djs are making fun of the 4 partiers outfits.

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[reality]

Ara you couldnt have picked a better issue to converse/debate about..

BRAVO!!! :clap:

[Komplex]

I don't get the thread title. WHY would producers/musos need to spin? I thought disc jockeys spin music.

[xfive]

Heh.. the majority of producers also spin.... granted, not all, but a lot do.

How does that not make sense?

[Komplex]

Thats cool but asking them why they dont spin is kinda strange. Who cares why. They can do whatever they like. Maybe they don't like spinning records or they're too busy shagging Beyers mum or something. It's irrelevant really.

[Rizage]

I hate the word "support" because it is so subjective. .

... but for those I respect, I try to do my small part, be it buying a record of theirs that sounds good or paying for a party when they come to play( if I have some loot). We all for the most part are not rich where we can go and spend 1000's every week on music and parties. But big name or not it does take money to keep things going...

Just my lil opinion..

This part reflects my opinion as well. Most parties in my neck of the woods I am either a part of, or I definitely try to make a contribution...even if I'm on a guest list of some sort. Every little bit helps.

The hard part is getting friends who aren't into the techno scene to stray outside norm...and come with me to an event. Rap music's got a strong hold on Houston, Texas. It's awful.