also logic has the es2 which is very nice, the logic exciter is fukking wicked, much nicer sounding than bbe sonic maximizer, the phaser that comes with it is the only phaser i've ever liked the sound of, most just thin out the sound too much... btw i use sx! and i love it but my mate dave has logic and the more i use it the more i like it... but it would be foolish to change now that there are to be no more pc updates. wouldnt it?