Whatever happened to all the good music??

[DJ Asylum]

Maybe it is just me but what has happened to Hard Trance Music?? I just cannot get into the hardstyle scene at all. Don't get me wrong some of it is good but rarely is there something that makes u want to go TUNE :!: :!:

Back in the "Old Skool" days every tape pack had a Mark or Mick set filled with tunes that made u just want to get up and dance, uplifting tunes, with melody, build ups that made u shiver (maybe that was the drugs ;) ) but imo it is all a bit too dark nowadays. Maybe in England it is a bit different and u can still get "Hard Trance" tunes in sets but up here it is all Hardstyle, Hardstyle and what do you know some more Hardstyle. I know music styles change, progress whatever u call it but ..... i miss... miss tunes like the Tunnel greats, URR, EDM and the likes.

Anyhoo just wanted to get that of ma chest and see what everyone else thinks? Or maybe i've just missed something? anyway i'll go and put ma soapbox away for a while and stick an old tape on. At least i have some memories when the good music played.

[Acid Bread]

hey mate , you aint the only one feelin like this :cry:you find alot of people(mark aswell) and even labels like edm say they miss the older stuff which i feel is hard to take in bein as they were one of the leading hardtrance labels after 95, i carnt understand myself why the music moved on so quick as if it did'nt lacked energy and vibe! i dont think so some how, it had all the ingredients you ever need in trance music, hard beats,the best melody's and offcourse ACID.
some of the oldskool germans say hardtrance trance began to fade around 96 for them bein as it all started around 88 with dj dag.

i mean look at today,scott brown n co and even(i hate sayin this but) the spanish are still bringing out what they call"makina shit" ,fair play to them, 2% of there stuff is bang on but the 98% i would chop up and use as burning materail

england does'nt offer much classic sets anymore, like you said its mainly hardstyle takin over which i aint got a problem which but like you said its hard HARD HARD. the same is said in germany, only the smaller clubs have revival party's and once a month a specail party in hamburg with the tunnel crew( i think we should organize a trip out there sometime :love: )

Anyway i rest may case for now ;)

[DJ Asylum]

Ma mate used to be based in Germany with the army and that was his weekend haunt (jammy c**t), along with certain red lit area but i wont go into that on here ;) .

He used to bring me home the tunnel trance cd's. Shit hot tunes, pity on the mixin front mind u, how did he ever get away with that?

Would be well up for a trip (if the missus would let us :cry: ) Would need to stick Mark in our suitcase as well! :lol:

[choppers]

Aye,that was the music Al....cant beat the old m-zone n mark eg tapes!

it show how good it is that theres still pleny o folk lookin for id's
of tunes from up to 10 years ago...& dancin round the room like loonies when you find a classic tune goin by the names you pick up up!! :lol: :lol: :clap:

the new 'm-zone' tunes out on white label from dance2trance? are pretty cool...like the are am aye vs noom 21

[alekos]

yeah boys i miss the good old hard trance, it all started changing 1999, i must say i didnt mind some of the more recenet hardtrance releases from 1999-2001, but from then on its all gone downhill apart from a few odd overdose releases

but defo nothing beats the old edm, tunnel, urr, bonzai & so on!

so keep it oldskool boys!

[mattshephard]

indeed.

Ive actually gone off hard trance a lot over the last year. Ive not actually bought and hardstyle or hard trance since last summer. The basslines all sound the same, not very original riffs. Seems to be all mass produced and in turn the quality is suffering.

Anyway, should have heard mzones set at uproar on saturday. Played a quality classic set, had the whole room rocking. Just like the old days!

[alekos]

sounds wicked matt, would hav loved to have been there!

[Acid Bread]

indeed.

Anyway, should have heard mzones set at uproar on saturday. Played a quality classic set, had the whole room rocking. Just like the old days!

cheers matt , thats what i wanted to hear :cry: another one i missed :clap:

[alekos]

poor carl

[mattshephard]

lol, well in my faded memory he played enter the darkroom; past, present.. future; believer;party program and ended with mind out.

wicked set. Just what was needed at 4am!

[DJ Asylum]

ahhhh The Past, Present, The Future! What a tune!!!!

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"Bring on that LSD! Acid Vibe!"

[mattshephard]

indeed it is.

'together in a land of ecstasy'

[Speciman]

Haha cool exactly the kind of question I ask myself all the time...why the **** did high BPM powerfull Trance, Hardtrance prods disappear???

Here in Switzerland we have maybe once per 3-4 months some Remember parties but usually 80% of the sets are Trance from 1999-2000 (once a DJ played Final Fantasy - Controlling Transmission 2001 at a Remember party...I could have killed him for real...), 10% of the sets are good Trance becoming Hardtrance (Ayla stuff, Taucher and co...1998 stuff mostly) and maybe 10% of the sets are Komakino - Outface, Nostrum stuff, Commander Tom - Are Am Eye?, even Renegade Legion - The Weeping Waste was played at the last Remember party I went to. And guess what? Everytime the DJ plays a harder tune, the crowd becomes mad!!! Which makes me think people would adore to hear again some Master Maximum Trance Traxx stuff or so...but I'm still planning to open one day my own Remember club :lol:

[Speciman]

Woups! Sorry, I didn't know that bad words were censored...

[Dave Elyzium]

Thing is if you listen to alot of the older hard trance era 1994-1997, the production quality wasnt the main priority (or probablr wasnt even a realistic possibilty given the cost of hardware back then)..but now that software production suites cost feck all or downlaodable from the net the whole dance scene has got a production erection that just wont go away....the older hard trance put energy, emotion and danceability above ANYTHING else and thats why we love it...i never remember questioning the timing on a delay or looppoint on a breakbeat or the fact that a track only had 5 elements to it back when i was 15 or 16, but now i know more about production i canlisten to the older stuff and see the minimilstic production that was the norm back then....sad wthing is that style will never return because you wouldnt get away with it now...it all has to be polished, compressed, limited and digitaly ****ed up the arse...sad but true...Nostrum would never get away with using a 909, 303 and that same choir sample on every track now but those tracks are unbelievable.

[Dave Elyzium]

sorry just realised how bad my typing was in that post! Just got back from work so ****ing knackered

[dj storm]

its strange but it seems the classic style we all love died at the same time throughout the whole of europe.
I started raving back in 1993 and spent the best party years of my life bouncin to the most powerful tunes i could ever have wished for :love: Unfortunately for me ,i got my big break dj'in mid 1997,about 6months before it all started to die here in N.ireland.(just my fu**in luck )
I remember it well.end of 1997.the main club in N.Ireland was called Exit 15.we had 2 rooms of sound
room 1 : was the main arena ,always pumpin hardtrance and hardcore
room 2 : house

then all of a sudden ,out of the blue it all changed.

room 1 : became hardhouse
room 2 :trance hardtrance

No one could understand why we had been pushed into the backroom.After all we had always filled the main room & everyone seemed to love it,so why the change?

hardhouse became the main style in our top club,and from there it was all downhill.
It's only now i realise that this was not a local phenomenon,but a much bigger catastrophy,that would totally destroy my favourite style of music.

8 years on the resistance is starting to grow.If we can all come together as one we can force the change.

all together now

WE WANT HARDTRANCE !
WE WANT HARDTRANCE !
WE WANT HARDTRANCE !
WE WANT HARDTRANCE !
WE WANT HARDTRANCE !

[DJ Asylum]

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WE WANT HARDTRANCE!!!!