ty everyone.....but my first ? is for jaypace ...only the first kick gets the reverb right...that should be plenty i think...and can u play ith the 50hz ranges etc in anythign else besides waves...my waves plugin is giving me trouble at the moment..maybe somethign basic in fruity so i can experiement as i retry to install my waves plugins...? fruity parametric eq maybe or 7 band eq...whihc has 63, 250, 500, 1500, 3k,5k, 8k (all hz) ....so what im asking sorta is ..if i wanan make something 50hz do i play with the first knob which says 63hz ...and maybe same knob when i wanna make the 2nd kick 80hz? or am i way off..