UK hard trance production

[MARKEG]

Have we got it? Who are the best UK hard trance producers? Why? And why is there only a handful of them? What is the UK so bad at producing German/Italian style hard trance?

Answers on a postcard (or this post!!!) please :lol: ....

[DJ Corbzy]

Mark I have to disagree there,

THREE Reasons:
JAY WALKER
JON THE BAPTIST
EUPHONIC

All make QUALITY hard trance and have a wikked, unique sound each.

[MARKEG]

Fair enough. Point taken...

[DJ Corbzy]

I win!!

But I do agree with the lack of...

[darkstar]

what about ermmmmmm Guyver ! :P hehe

And you Mark ! Stark :D

[macca's]

We do have a distinct lack of talent over here, were very good as a nation at making hard house, but when it comes to warped bass line's are pants are pulled down by the german's, whilst the Italians penetrate....

Trance has always really come from those lovely Germans, they've always made beautiful tunes with beautiful breakdowns, and shit hot bass lines. Somehow those Italians don't quite have that eye, for uplifting trance (no more than the UK does). They have generally a very unique sound compared to the german's.

but I think I have the answer to your question......

Germany = trance/Hard Trance is a popular genre there, and is devolped for a commercial market

Italy = Techno-Trance/hardstyle is a popular genre there, and is devolped for a commercial market

UK = House music is a popular genre here, and is devolped for a commercial market


in otherwords we do make good music in this country, and this is recognised in places abroad like America for example, but like any genre, the best sounds will come out from the most popular genre...

Hard Trance just isn't at the top of the food chain in britain, whereas sounds like Hard House, Funky tribal prog house, super funky deep dazzled sprangled hard house are....


if Hard trance was the most popular genre, and the scene was to stay that way, we'd be producing as much stuff as those Crouts and Italian's, and at a similar quality.....

[Dj Swannie]

Yeah Have to agree with corbzy there. There is some good Hard Trance production coming from this country at the moment. That Jay walker tune or some of John the Baptist's latest stuff has to be the best hard trance Ive heard all year. There is a shortage of Good uk hard trance producers, but in a way that could be good ,because if there was loads of Hard Trance coming from this country it would be in danger of going to main stream.

[macca's]

DJ Swannie, im not sure if you've seen the Germany scene?

bassicly its a completly different set-up to how it is over here....


if Hard trance was to constantly be commercial, i.e not get made commerc ial over night, and when the fashion changes leave the music dead in the gutter...

and we had trance as a one love in britain enternally (which it isn't)

they'd be no problem, they'd still be plenty of underground raves, promoters doing things for the right reasons etc etc....


but as the UK scene goes, they take a sound and give it loads of attention and dump right when the sounds needed most...

[baptismo]

The UK are defo getting close now i reckon.... Nightfinder (as some1 mentioned somewhere else in the forum) is one of the best UK productions to date.....

[wenna]

i think the uk sound is too light and friendly.......theres no deep dark menacing stuff being released and it gets very boring after a couple of [plays....it lacks richness

[ed-hard]

i do like the uk sound coming through, its fresh and different to both the german and italian sounds. guyver clearly has a lot of potential, and i'm into a lot of the high fish productions. i agree with wenna's comments though, it is following a more uplififting trend and we're yet to see anything as dark and hard as what's coming out of italy. i have been very impressed by a couple of tunes on HEAVYWEIGHT records though, very hard and very different to all the other uk shit. i don't think the uk will ever compete with the other european producers who always seem to be one step ahead...it could happen if our producers were to develop a 'uk' style that became widely recognised as unique. at the moment there's just a few guys caning out a few good tunes here and there, more people need to become more prolific in their production to get their sound recognised

[Hakka.]

Jay Walker and Jon Baptist are my current fav's... Guyver is good but he needs to go a bit more underground with his sound than the tidy sort of way.

Thing is UK has no original sort of sound of it's own except for the fast riff's and weak breaks... that died with commercial trance in 99/00... and as Jay Walker and Baptist are showing class work with there versions of forigen style trance I think they we will be leading the way for the sort of stuff I like to listen to in 2003/4!

[sean.demaine]

also in the u.k producers seem to go for a more "busy" percussion and often quite loud in comparison to the kick ??

[K Front]

i think the uk sound is too light and friendly.......theres no deep dark menacing stuff being released and it gets very boring after a couple of [plays....it lacks richness

I agree there isnt as much dark twisted stuff but i dont think its getting boring, i think there are some nice tracks from the uk..

[Dj Swannie]

mecca's - i havent been to germany myself, but ive heard about it from over people, ive always wanted to go just to experience it.
Like you have said in an earlyer post, we are well known in this country for hard house and germans for there trance ect. Thats the way it will always be ( In my opinion ) until the next new thing comes along, which I hope dosent as I love Hard Trance ! :D

[Paul Nisbet]

still not enough brit talent imo, in the hard trance scene, all this tidy 2/ nukleuz kinda faster energy hard trance by numbers kinda sound floating about. None can be compared to the german or italien scencs imo.

Just no-one out there who can u put along side the big boys from overseas.

[The Teknoist.]

http://www.blackoutaudio.co.uk/phpBB...6bb8cb0a323963

[meri]

How about K. Scales (records as FASTFLOOR and SUPER SLEUTH)? There's a couple of good ones on Project Five Records (hard trance with an uplifting, 'ravey' edge), and the new one on Audio Rehab called "Roll The Beats". Worth checking

[Louk]

meri dont forget the wicked remix he's done of execute 4!!

fat as **** my friend.

how was the techno event this sunday just gone?

Louk

[meri]

Hi Louk,
Cheers 4 asking. Sunday was cool:- nice club, nice sounds (Dougie ALWAYS rips it up), and nice people.... just not enough of 'em. Still, it was the launch night and it's going to fall on Saturdays from now on so it should pick up.