Friday Feb 4th - Premonition - Plymouth & Newquay!

[Hakka]

Sadly the Newquay event was a disaster. A loss of around £1300 for us. Shame, the music and mixing was fine. Ben DJ and Radium are very talented mixers and they always play wicked hardstyle.

I've realised now that running a night is not only about the line up or promotion, it's about building it up over time. If a clubber is used to attending one, or two venues regulary, why should they go elsewhere... You can give them a good excuse with a strong leading guest DJ, but if they have never heard of the event before they do not know if it will be to there liking. You can't enter a new area and throw money and promotion at it. People need to see the event going on for a few months before they consider giving it a try. I never expected 700, 500, or 400, I hoped for at least 200+ but it was far lower than that amount...

This was a harsh lesson, but I've learnt from it... It's a shame as the future monthly events planned can now not proceed... :cry:

[Yoshimitsu]

sorry to hear that hakka m8.. subsonica had the same problem wen it began and even now it does not attract huge numbers. it is getting there though. shame you cant afford to do more

[Hakka]

sorry to hear that hakka m8.. subsonica had the same problem wen it began and even now it does not attract huge numbers. it is getting there though. shame you cant afford to do more

To be honest, I would not want to do the future events even if I had the money. I would do smaller ones with local talent and build up the name perhaps... I think realistically they would attract perhaps 20 to 40 people more than the last one as each event happened (and that would still mean losses probably if its a big name lineup). I'm now positive you have to build a name up so that people regulary will see that your doing something. After 8 months or so, perhaps more people will say "hey why not give that night a try? they have done 8 events now" and I think that's when people talk about the night IF they like it and more people get interested.

[DJTrubass]

sorry to hear that hakka m8.. subsonica had the same problem wen it began and even now it does not attract huge numbers. it is getting there though. shame you cant afford to do more

To be honest, I would not want to do the future events even if I had the money. I would do smaller ones with local talent and build up the name perhaps... I think realistically they would attract perhaps 20 to 40 people more than the last one as each event happened (and that would still mean losses probably if its a big name lineup). I'm now positive you have to build a name up so that people regulary will see that your doing something. After 8 months or so, perhaps more people will say "hey why not give that night a try? they have done 8 events now" and I think that's when people talk about the night IF they like it and more people get interested.

deffo m8, this is what we did a bit of with lockdown, first few events local djs, and a few back rooms here and there.. leeping ahead a bit with hte next one now to try and begin to boost turn out and hoping it goes ok but it may not, if our next event goes fully shit (which i cant see it doing) then were gonna lay low till the summer run a load of free parties and get our name built up to get a decent following!

only way i guess

ps the night i thought was still banging the djs were all ****ing amazing, infiltrators supprised me i loved them, as much as all the others, postino was the only let down the pisshead messing up my mix in the main room HAHAH.. the guys a legned tho respect, keep your thoughts up tho hakka being a promoter is a basterd and needs dedication and alot of hard work.. youl get there ;)

[Voorheez]

Sorry to hear it didn't go too well Mark - perhaps the time of year had a lot to do with it also - Newquay is very holiday season orientated, so I guess there isn't much of a crowd to go around at this time of year?

[DJ Corbzy]

Agree totally with the 'building it up' scenario...it has to be done...

Too many promoter's are doing what I call 'One Night Stands' where they pour a load of money and promotion into a night and then flop and never do another event...

It's all about reputation IMO...

[Hakka]

Agree totally with the 'building it up' scenario...it has to be done...

Too many promoter's are doing what I call 'One Night Stands' where they pour a load of money and promotion into a night and then flop and never do another event...

It's all about reputation IMO...

Yes. People need to be regulary seeing an event through flyers and promotion. That way they know what the event is all about... this event was not a 'One Night Stand', it was a monthly event. Problem is we needed to make "some" money back to do the next one. We don't have £1500+ to blow each month if it doesn't work. Through credit we could afford to do another one, but I doubt it would pull much more than last time either, given that Dana is booked to play on same night down the road... I don't want more debt, I'm trying to rid what I have!

I believe in building it up totally, and last friday really made me believe it more so, given that now I'm massively out of pocket.

[Hakka]

Agree totally with the 'building it up' scenario...it has to be done...

Too many promoter's are doing what I call 'One Night Stands' where they pour a load of money and promotion into a night and then flop and never do another event...

It's all about reputation IMO...

Yes. People need to be regulary seeing an event through flyers and promotion. That way they know what the event is all about... this event was not a 'One Night Stand', it was a monthly event. Problem is we needed to make "some" money back to do the next one. We don't have £1500+ to blow each month if it doesn't work. Through credit we could afford to do another one, but I doubt it would pull much more than last time either, given that Dana is booked to play on same night down the road... I don't want more debt, I'm trying to rid what I have!

I believe in building it up totally, and last friday really made me believe it more so, given that now I'm massively out of pocket.

when I say "know what the event is all about" I mean they need to see that the night has been going on for some time before they think "well that event has been putting on hard trance and hard style for a while now, seen many of there flyers, let's give it a go..." and of course with every event if you do a good job people talk and brings some more to your next events. Or at least that's what I believe...

We want to build a good underground hard trance, hardstyle and techno night and the plans we had to use local talent of cornwall and the south west with also "one" big Dj a month (that Cornwall has not seen before in theory) I hoped would work... but it hasn't on this occasion. :cry:

[piginabush]

Hakka bey..... dont get too disheartened..... Premonition has been building up in Plymouth for over a year now, and we all know about it up here, it just takes a little time and I guess you learned the hard way you just cant throw a "big name" at an event and expect a big crowd. I wont feel comfortable putting a name DJ on until we have settled Positive Impact into our new venue, and see what type of crowd we get.

see you friday anyhoo..... Ill get you a cheap £1.20 beer so you can drown your sorrows ;)

[DJTrubass]

Sorry to hear it didn't go too well Mark - perhaps the time of year had a lot to do with it also - Newquay is very holiday season orientated, so I guess there isn't much of a crowd to go around at this time of year?

ur right m8! good points

[DJ Corbzy]

Agree totally with the 'building it up' scenario...it has to be done...

Too many promoter's are doing what I call 'One Night Stands' where they pour a load of money and promotion into a night and then flop and never do another event...

It's all about reputation IMO...

Yes. People need to be regulary seeing an event through flyers and promotion. That way they know what the event is all about... this event was not a 'One Night Stand', it was a monthly event. Problem is we needed to make "some" money back to do the next one. We don't have £1500+ to blow each month if it doesn't work. Through credit we could afford to do another one, but I doubt it would pull much more than last time either, given that Dana is booked to play on same night down the road... I don't want more debt, I'm trying to rid what I have!

I believe in building it up totally, and last friday really made me believe it more so, given that now I'm massively out of pocket.

when I say "know what the event is all about" I mean they need to see that the night has been going on for some time before they think "well that event has been putting on hard trance and hard style for a while now, seen many of there flyers, let's give it a go..." and of course with every event if you do a good job people talk and brings some more to your next events. Or at least that's what I believe...

We want to build a good underground hard trance, hardstyle and techno night and the plans we had to use local talent of cornwall and the south west with also "one" big Dj a month (that Cornwall has not seen before in theory) I hoped would work... but it hasn't on this occasion. :cry:

yeah mate, i also think using the same headline at two events on the same night may have been your downfall...

it's really a shame mate.... :cry:

[Jay Sanders]

Thats a real shame Mark, I know how hard all you guys worked for that night!!!

I think Corbzy has made a real good point, im not saying theres anything wrong with The Trance Generators but you really have to look deep and hard at the names that will pull a massive crowd into a club.

Keep your head up dude and stick at it, alot of us ahve been in the same situation..... you;ll come through in the end!!!