Prove My Point

**gary_human** · 14-01-2005, 12:59 AM

Originally Posted by ncw

Originally Posted by MangaFish

that joeys new sound is 5 years out of date? :?:

More like 35 years, as he's sampling records that sampled disco records, innit?
;)

lol

anyone got the orignal disco tune - Im sure that cause more "dancefloor detonation" than these? bet its harder to mix aswell ;)

**xfive** · 14-01-2005, 01:03 AM

heh yeah... we all know's he's gone down the shitter.. all I was sayin was that he had sampled the exact thing that had been done years before.. and its not like Basovski's track was only heard by a couple people... :lol:

He should stick to analog gear :lol:

**gary_human** · 14-01-2005, 01:11 AM

Originally Posted by ncw

But sampling tired old disco records? use your imagination for **** sake.

yeah come on . . . if your gonna sample a disco record ? Make it a GOOD one? ;) something like Leo Sayer or whatever :lol: bring that mo fo back!!!

**dirty_bass** · 14-01-2005, 01:22 AM

Blatant rip off alert!!!

Why revive disco? the old corpse has been dug up so many times, even the CSI guys feel sick when they see it, and I heard grisham say.
"Put that one back in the ground, some things are best left in peace"

**ncw** · 14-01-2005, 01:34 AM

Originally Posted by dirty_bass

Blatant rip off alert!!!

Why revive disco? the old corpse has been dug up so many times, even the CSI guys feel sick when they see it, and I heard grisham say.
"Put that one back in the ground, some things are best left in peace"

I disagree. GOOD disco should be revived, rather than ten a penny cackathons.

**dirty_bass** · 14-01-2005, 02:44 AM

Techno is about the future.
The whole music industry is obsessed with regurgitation, as it is a less risky way of releasing music.
I prefer look forwards, rather than backwards.

**slavestudios** · 14-01-2005, 03:27 AM

sometimes i believe you must look back to go forward, but just recycling the same shit is pointless..

**xfive** · 14-01-2005, 03:28 AM

Everything has it's time man.. diggin up disco does not help with progression.

In 5-10 years we will all look back and see that the tunes we put out right now are just as easily dispoable.

At least they (were hopefully) fresh at the time.

;)

**slavestudios** · 14-01-2005, 03:42 AM

i think everyone on this thread is agreed..

Beltrams gone wank & samplin the same ol' same ol' is bad for the music

:clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

**Komplex** · 14-01-2005, 04:32 AM

Hahah. I just listened to them both.

How amateur can one get. My 8 year old cousin could have dumped that same disco loop in "acid" and done the same thing 10 times better. Why are people so stupid?

What is Beltram thinking.

**Joseph Isaac** · 14-01-2005, 06:52 AM

Metro, Forklift, Ballpark...Then Joey needed money.

oldbugger · 14-01-2005, 07:12 AM

Originally Posted by dirty_bass

Techno is about the future.
The whole music industry is obsessed with regurgitation, as it is a less risky way of releasing music.

why is it? surely techno is about whatever we want it to be and whatever the producer wants too. and not about following the sheep.

that comment in itself goes against what techno is about IMO

**dirty_bass** · 14-01-2005, 07:23 AM

well in that case how about some 20`s cha cha techno.
or the twist by chubby checker and joey beltram.
Or how about some elizabethan harpsichord techno. "Shall we dine at the summer palace tonight darling albert?"

Wev`e had the 60`s revival, the 70`s revival, the 80`s revival, and the feckin 90`s revival. Then it went 70`s again.
Jeeeeez, are people affraid of the future or what? or have they just run out of ideas?

Learn from the past
Don`t repeat it.

oldbugger · 14-01-2005, 07:32 AM

i'm not saying i dissagree, I'm saying that to say a comment like "techno is about this" or techno is about that" goes against everything it should be. surely its about whatever we want.

if joey likes to mess with old disco tunes thats fine, he obviously likes it, along with thousands of other people, no harm done.

the word 'elitist' springs to mins :dontevengothere:

oldbugger · 14-01-2005, 07:36 AM

mind*

**dirty_bass** · 14-01-2005, 07:58 AM

not elitist, just fed up with regurgitation culture in the media as a whole.
the italian job in LA?
a remake of get carter with silvester stallone.

Leave it be.

Too may people making excuses for people past their prime as well.
Joey isn`t on the edge any more.

I mean, Carl Lewis isn`t still trying to run in the olympics right?
And we all know the rolling stones aren`t what they were. A bunch of animated corpses playing songs they`ve played so many times, they can do it whilst having a triple bi-pass. Oh the excitement.

Is techno any different? Just cos beltram was a founder, doesn`t mean he can`t be crap now.

thousands of people go to see britney spears..............

**anx** · 14-01-2005, 08:10 AM

hey joey isnt complete crap right now tho, he's still making some wicked shit

sure that tune is crap, but i wouldnt go so far as to say he's sold out completly or anything...

**anx** · 14-01-2005, 01:12 PM

Originally Posted by dirty_bass

Wev`e had the 60`s revival, the 70`s revival, the 80`s revival, and the feckin 90`s revival. Then it went 70`s again.
Jeeeeez, are people affraid of the future or what?

well, how exactly are you supposed to sample from the future?

sorry im drunk and being an arse hehe

**koma** · 14-01-2005, 01:45 PM

I dont see techno as a futuristic music, I mean, I live now, not in the future.. as in any other genre, real producers express their emotions through it.. love, hate, depression.. or need for money :lol:

yes, maybe disco is dead, but I know people who will say electro & acid are dead in a way, cause most of that sound is already heard, so why is still heavy milking of that sound going on?

I can compare this stuff thats Joey's doing with Marc Acardipane.. the guy put out We have arrived, which is like first real Hardcore record..he's known for his PCP and many other projects (lots of monikers used, more than 30 I think

), but maybe 20-30% of hardcore fans knew for him.. then, few years back Marc decided enough is enough, he needed money and wanted respect that others took for him, so he's doing poor hardstyle now.. and colaborating with Scooter (!)..

**xfive** · 14-01-2005, 01:47 PM

Originally Posted by dirty_bass

well in that case how about some 20`s cha cha techno.
or the twist by chubby checker and joey beltram.

bahahahahahaha
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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