Quote Originally Posted by neilried
I dont think its cheating to use loops, its part of the learning curve but can understand why when people who sucessfully create their own stuff that sounds awesome get pissed off with people who call them selves producers by arranging other peoples loops. But as has been said its done by load of high profile producers. One of the sound banks I have at home has loads of loops found in cave records...
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Thank you for mentioning this!
Using loops is a pure learning curve to get the feeling of how to create proper drum combinations and grooves...
It's the stage where people are exploring how to make tracks, and are not seriously thinking about releasing stuff.

And if you want to use tracks in a proffesional way; for instance to release on a label: That should be the moment to get you own creations done, by making your own patterns like the most over here mentioned..