i cudnt name anyone who does it i meant in general, i wud never get into this stuff and wud certainly never remember anyone who made it... to me just sounds like what passes for hardcore/hardstyle/harddeathtrancecore etc etc etc whatever one wud like to call it... this kinda stuff has so many tags i think it wud best be called hard dance to simplify things.... but still, not what i wud class as good music im afraid sorry! :(