A true pioneer?

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I agree with you on your lock groove point, many loop techno records need to only hang around for about a quarter of the time they do. What you are missing here though is the subject of this thread which refers to innovators and Lekebusch has undoubtedly been an innovator to some degree. Whether he still is is another story

Fair point

The hard loop was dismissed in the same way five years ago

I remember it being bigged up myself, as it generally is...

just because Mills started something doesn't mean that we all have to say that's a Mills imitation, that's like saying that all dub music is just a Lee Scratch Perry imitation and that they should all move on. Mills just happened to be the creator of it that's all, some people now make good stuff, others make shit stuff, many producers though have evolved.

Again, fair point..

part of the resposibility lies with DJ's playing and pushing new styles of techno or with labels who are willing to support new styles of techno, the rest just lies with the crowds and if they are willing to accept it.

Big up to Jerome Hill (Don't) on that tip, as a dj playing really good new sounds to people and playing them well...

Hard looped techno is probably more popular than it has ever been, and if people are into it you can't really argue with that...

Personally, I think popularity dosn't neccesarily mean something is good or innovative..

I suppose it's all subjective really, but, even as people can be innovative for their time, surely we should be looking to the future, not who innovated in the past....