Quote Originally Posted by crime

>The hard loop was dismissed in the same way five years ago

I remember it being bigged up myself, as it generally is...
We must have been reading different magazines :) although i'm referring more to interviews with certain producers as opposed to record reviews. The manner in which hard techno was dismissed then was the exact same as now..

Quote Originally Posted by crime
Personally, I think popularity dosn't neccesarily mean something is good or innovative..

I suppose it's all subjective really, but, even as people can be innovative for their time, surely we should be looking to the future, not who innovated in the past....
I agree, Cliff Richard sang crap songs and people still liked him! Just because something is popular doesn't mean it's good, you are right. My point here is just a simple one really- people are still really going for hard looping techno regardless of whether it's innovative. In terms of looking back at who innovated in the past I think getting caught up too much in that is pointless, it doesn't really matter that much as most of these producers could be people you don't even listen to anymore, people who may not have any relevance in what kind of music you make today, their influence can often be overstated just because some journalists feel the need to cross reference every 5 minutes. Techno has been shaped by loads of people and there's loads of styles out there, as you said it's all subjective..