fine.. i mean i've had or at least try to have that conversation "what is art where does techno take it's place"
and yes it's far too subjective. well. techno is just that as well.. far too subjective and it tends or at least does move into complete and absolute regurgitation. cynical maybe.. objective sounds much better.

schlong.. yes there are a few but as you said they are so far under the earth you'd need a drilling operation to locate them.

i'd love to have the what is art and what is techno place in it conversation the only people i've ever had it with were luka baumann and dirty bass. two people i do consider techno artists.