Quality Control & This Forum

[gumpy green]

[quote="massplanck"]

aye like my post on djing......i was trying to point out to fok about the shit than can be down on the turntables and how to try and get more musical on them ie...new and forward thinking.......all i got was folk trying to say its fine the way it is????????????eh.......just cause it aint been down(well it has, badley) dont mean that locking yerselve away for 2yrs and practising wont change shit.....but fukit lets beatmatch all the time....

when was that?.. giz a link to it. I only beatmatch about 2 out every 5 tunes I play. In at all different speeds and allsorts or music. Keeps me from going mad :)

onlky last wek or so

http://www.blackoutaudio.co.uk/phpBB...ic.php?t=29879

good to here yer doing new shit......any links man., would like a peep..

[jon connor]

hey guys theres a lot of things going on in here thats makeing me not want to post.im confused wot to write about and post about for in fear of beeing attacked by the pack of wolves in here. ive been posting responses to peoples posts about new releases etc.then i see people dising people like myself for giving the big fairplay, i mean cumon dudes you gota pay credit where its due. man where`s me skins! i need a fat 1 to work all this out. :bash:

[massplanck]

hey guys theres a lot of things going on in here thats makeing me not want to post.im confused wot to write about and post about for in fear of beeing attacked by the pack of wolves in here. ive been posting responses to peoples posts about new releases etc.then i see people dising people like myself for giving the big fairplay, i mean cumon dudes you gota pay credit where its due. man where`s me skins! i need a fat 1 to work all this out. :bash:

relax!! jon I enjoy your posts the board would be twice as shite without your sense of humour!! There just doesnt seem to enough to keep 'other' people interested if you know what I mean. Its too narrow in here sometimes. I dont attack releases I just shut up but lately there has been nothing that has gotten my attention so thats why i think the place should broaden its horizons a bit.

[schlongfingers]

I still think, if you don't like something, don't comment - just post about what you like innit. It's not like people are gonna change their minds because you don't like it, well, not unless they are really really dumb.

what if someone not really clued up on techno posted a bad track saying it was great...dont you think it would be good to tell em otherwise by tellin them why, maybe educate other folk and could stop em from buying the weak shit and they would then know what to look for..better made stuff.

Hmm, yes you make a good point. Constructive criticism is good - i guess I only stick the rule above cos I dislike the majority of music posted here :D

Although if I was to follow that rule I could post the following sentance 90% of the time on this site:

'This is bad because it sounds the same as xyz from 10 years ago, go and listen to some Neil Landstrumm / Subhead / Frankie Bones / DJ Hyperactive, it's much better, I'm sure you'll agree'

Hehe, i think you can see why i don't follow this rule.

Music is just so subjective, I cant sit there and decide what is bad or good and for that to just be that. The only way is to post about good stuff and hope people are open minded enough to listen to it, and to ignore posters if they go on about music I think is bad.

[SlavikSvensk]

i generally agree with massplanck's statement about techno not really progressing much in the last 5-7 years, but i also think there have been some great records in that time. i agree that most records people post about are cookie cutter, but recognize that some people hear other things in them. bottom line is, it's important that we recognize we are a community of sorts and therefore need to be mindful of others.

i'd propose a few simple rules of decorum:

a) be respectful of other people's tastes when they differ from yours

b) always remember that others have things to contribute, even if they haven't been into techno as long as you

c) try to help amateur (or professional) producers better themselves through constructive criticism

d) debate people, don't insult them

e) be humble. if you think you are good, let your music talk for you

f) finally, as long as it adheres to points A-D, be able to take constructive criticism or disagreement with your views

[AcidTrash]

All of you shut up, hit the shiny boxes with flashy LED's, make some music and let it speak for you!

[gumpy green]

i generally agree with massplanck's statement about techno not really progressing much in the last 5-7 years, but i also think there have been some great records in that time. i agree that most records people post about are cookie cutter, but recognize that some people hear other things in them. bottom line is, it's important that we recognize we are a community of sorts and therefore need to be mindful of others.

i'd propose a few simple rules of decorum:

a) be respectful of other people's tastes when they differ from yours

b) always remember that others have things to contribute, even if they haven't been into techno as long as you

c) try to help amateur (or professional) producers better themselves through constructive criticism

d) debate people, don't insult them

e) be humble. if you think you are good, let your music talk for you

f) finally, as long as it adheres to points A-D, be able to take constructive criticism or disagreement with your views

yup totally man.....well put.,

to see the differnece between" bad stuff" and "not to yer taste" needs to be adopted sometimes

[The Overfiend]

i dunno. you try to point something out and once again it goes over the heads. The forum sucks lately (havent been on much and seen any slaggin) because its the same old same old forumalic shite that pops its head up. Like Sunil said what the **** is new or 'futuristic' or forward thinking anymore in here. All people seem to want to do (in here) is mix the same shite all of the time over and over and over and over. Whenever a new release comes out by a certian producer who never deviates from the line its like "oh my god i gotta have this one' 'or oh my god this great'. Wake the **** up people there is nothing forward thinking about playing the same style of music that peaked in '97. Nothing wrong with liking it but 50 billion identical posts about identical sounding tunes just drives people mad. There is NOTHING on this forum that promotes the cross-pollination of electronic music so if thats the way you want it to be then fine and tread water till you drown. Sorry ranting a bit but as a moderator Sam you sure know how to keep techno in the doldrums by not even acknowleging what a few of us said.


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First of all, who are you calling out, when to be honest. You are one of the most negative people here, that's my first point. Two what are you doing to push things forward? and when was the last time I saw a post from you about something you have really enjoyed? You don't like what's going on do something about it. Don't sit there and knock others for what they may like. Who are you Surgeon?

[The Overfiend]

Don't tell me how to do my job man, cause I'm contributing, and I'm not ignoring a f*ckin' thing. I'm contributing, not sitting here with my thumb in my arse complaining how much the music sucks. Man up or go home.

[jon connor]

hey guys theres a lot of things going on in here thats makeing me not want to post.im confused wot to write about and post about for in fear of beeing attacked by the pack of wolves in here. ive been posting responses to peoples posts about new releases etc.then i see people dising people like myself for giving the big fairplay, i mean cumon dudes you gota pay credit where its due. man where`s me skins! i need a fat 1 to work all this out. :bash:

relax!! jon I enjoy your posts the board would be twice as shite without your sense of humour!! There just doesnt seem to enough to keep 'other' people interested if you know what I mean. Its too narrow in here sometimes. I dont attack releases I just shut up but lately there has been nothing that has gotten my attention so thats why i think the place should broaden its horizons a bit.

yep i hear ya man. :clap: im a bit pissed today 2day coz someone did a hit n run on me cat! if id of known it was is 9th life i would of kept im in for life. :cry:

anyway there will always be politics on forums and quite frankly it makes me a bit tired.theres enough politics in the club scene and it leaks onto message boards causing mayhem and brain overload.....ive seen people getting well established aritists on here all vext up so they kick off a bit and end up haveing a public slanging match..its not nice i dont want to see it, i think these people should piss! off! + go get a job working for the sun news paper theyed be better working for the paparatzi!

[massplanck]

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First of all, who are you calling out, when to be honest. You are one of the most negative people here, that's my first point.

Two what are you doing to push things forward? and when was the last time I saw a post from you about something you have really enjoyed? You don't like what's going on do something about it. Don't sit there and knock others for what they may like. Who are you Surgeon?

Only because you never acknowledged a few ideas people had about the forum. You asked the question, got the answer you wanted and that was that. Problem sorted. For **** sake Sam I dont jump in and personally slag records & producers. THE TOPIC OF THIS CONVERSATION IS CALLED 'QUALITY CONTROL & THIS FORUM'. I suggested that their probably should be one forum where everyone posts about techno/electro/house/dark stuff/electronica and you still dodge the question. You dont see me post about something i like because I dont know where to post about it. I'd rather post it in here but It might get moved to sector 7G where 2 people might read about it or someone might have a superiority complex about it. Answer the question. Do you think it would be good if we all posted in the one section about evilish electronic music we liked as opposed to 4? Ever wonder why people aint bothered anymore. Sorry for shooting my mouth off but the content in here seems to be getting very very narrow. Not that i would want to stop people posting about these records (I have loads of this stuff and still buy em) but it would be nice if was all one big melting pot which promoted a bit of diversity. Adverse posted a deadly link to record yesterday but whats the point having it in that section where your average joe soap doesnt feel at liberty to say whether its shit or not.

Jesus it was only an idea and still you cant answer me after loads of posts. No wonder I'm so negative if thats the way things get done around here.
& I wouldnt go dragging Surgeons name thru the mud my associating him with me ;)

[massplanck]

Don't tell me how to do my job man, cause I'm contributing, and I'm not ignoring a f*ckin' thing. I'm contributing, not sitting here with my thumb in my arse complaining how much the music sucks. Man up or go home.

I gave you a suggestion. Sunil agreed & a couple of others. Answer the question.

[jon connor]

Don't tell me how to do my job man, cause I'm contributing, and I'm not ignoring a f*ckin' thing. I'm contributing, not sitting here with my thumb in my arse complaining how much the music sucks. Man up or go home.

someone pass me the skins for sam please! he obout to self destruct! count to 10 fella!


guys, guys, easy now eeeeezzzzzzzzzzzzzzzYYYYY! lets put this fire out before it spreads.. ;)

remember its all about freedom of speach. "when our inner sound can kill the outer sound we will have reached the calmness wherein tranquility may be found,"

[Sunil]

First of all, who are you calling out, when to be honest. You are one of the most negative people here, that's my first point. Two what are you doing to push things forward? and when was the last time I saw a post from you about something you have really enjoyed? You don't like what's going on do something about it. Don't sit there and knock others for what they may like. Who are you Surgeon?

Read some other forums and you'll see stuff he enjoys. I personally didn't see too much "This is a shit record" going on in here, but I guess I haven't been on BOA too much recently. I like some records mentioned here and like a natter from time to time, but there's quite simply not enough hard/club techno debate or discussion that would interest me anymore. I've tried to start threads or mention other 'club' techno and been lucky to get more than a couple of replies, **** that. Segregation is silly. I liked your post on influences Antonio because it helps people trace back why they got into this in the first place, we should always be reminded of how good the older stuff was, what it was, and how that level and standard of music can be created again in the future. Likewise different styles need to be thrown into here to open people's eyes a bit.

[massplanck]

i generally agree with massplanck's statement about techno not really progressing much in the last 5-7 years, but i also think there have been some great records in that time.

Thanks slavik. . I didnt really want to go down the road of bitching about loopy hard techno because to be honest I'd be a hypocryte seeing as i'm surrounded by shitloads of old glen wilson, beyer & swedish stuff as I speak. My point is that no-one is doing anything to promote diversity around here which is a bit like keeping the whites in one room the blacks in another and not letting the chinese into your house at all. I've nearly given up!

[SlavikSvensk]

to quote saddam hussein in south park...we all need to relaaaaaaaaaax.

massplanck has a legitimate point about how the various branches of the techno tree need to stop self-segregating themselves. people wonder why techno is losing popularity and originality...one of the biggest reasons is overspecialization.

that said, SoS was obviously ticked off by the way massplanck initially expressed that.

this is EXACTLY why we need people to observe the simple rules of decorum i posted not much more than an hour ago in this very thread! i'm not calling anyone out, but i think everyone can benefit from keeping it cool and calm and remembering to treat each other with respect...

[The Overfiend]

I did'nt answer cause I agree with the no segregation idea.
You think I am dodging a question that is not for me to answer.
I appreciate ALL forms of techno, I don't appreciate the shit that takes
3 seconds to make or when people fall into formulas. I also wont go on dissin' someones art either it's the duality I play with being a producer/mod/listener.
I agree with Sunil saying that people need to know history as well, and Jon no need for the skins, I retired the gloves when I almost was going to knock out a liquid terminator.

[Martin Dust]

As I started this, I guess I'd better help out.

Look, things always get heated when you care about things. It was also me that wrote that Reeko review - thing is I do believe what I wrote to be true, if I hear another version of the same song I'll ****ing scream. Yes, I do think Reeko is talented and yes I would say what I said to his face. The connection was the same city and I believed that was the correct context, I also thought the record was a lot better, in the same way I'm glad that BMB have repeated themselves over the last 12"s, do I need to go on, you love it I didn't...

There's loads of people here that don't agree with me or what I'm doing with our label, thing is I don't mind that - wouldn't have it any other way, but I'd still share a drink with them. All this shit needs to be kept in context, you can't force anything on anyone nor can you expect people to have the same level of commitment as you.

Take it easy on each other and agree to disagree and like I said before lets have the freedom to say what we want, anything else is what's stopping people posting I believe.

[The Overfiend]

And as a grown ass man I apologize to Planck, I'm not an asshole.

[The Overfiend]

Take it easy on each other and agree to disagree and like I said before lets have the freedom to say what we want, anything else is what's stopping people posting I believe.

Very Adult
I like this one.