UK TECHNOVUL this a must! nowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww!

[jon connor]

ok guys hear is my idea ,theres a lot of talk on who is doing wot not enough action this that and the other...right then tell me wot you think of this.
In the uk there is no real foundation ,we need 1 big body of all the underground artist etc. right then i perpose a uk technovul once a year in the summer,this should be a weekend event spread over 2 3 days or somthing.

i would like to see how dedicated techno artist realy are to the uk scene.there should be market stalls label stores all sorts of uk techno merchandise on offer.......its done in barcelona why not here.

obviously this is somthing that is going to take a lot of time and effort,it will take a lot of people pulling strings etc but however it will be a step in the right direction.

i would look for promters label owners managment wot ever all to come together for 1 show each year.

now then i could probably organise some land, and also a major extreme sports contest to coincide with the evnt to make more intersting.
wot im looking for is the services of all major uk techno artist¬s this should be a multi arena event right through the whole underground techno spectrum from electro to banging schranz....

now then cost is going to be a big thing so a sponsor may be needed along with the trusty sevices of our uk techno artist offering there services for free! yes i said it free! why! because this event should be scaled down and more affordable to the people you are showcaseing your products to. also it will be a good move from you guys at the top to show you actually do care about the scene in the uk and not just how many units you have sold this week!
;)
now i no there is a magnetude of power in you b.o.a if we care about our scene enough in the uk then i think this a good idea!
why is a good idea? well its like this when a tree grows it also grows lot of branches ;) think about it!

we need this in the uk.........ITS GAGGING FOR IT! so guys cummon wot do you think!




( no shitty! posts in here just positive response please! cummon guys turn them brain engines on ;) )

[eyes without a face]

sounds wikid, this cud seriously go off, im sure there are loads of people on here even some of the more established names who wud love to be involved, this could be alot of fun but wud need some organising thats for sure!

but yeah wikid idea

[jon connor]

yea a lot of organising is why it doesent need to be rushed! the land etc wont be a problem,,also sound systems either, i no a lot of people in diffrent areas and 1 is the opus sound systyems,( u will see these sysytems at glasstonberry etc )i could try arrange a deal with them so as they can show case there stuff to this why i need a sponsor im on it at the moment. its been in the pipeline for a while now.its just time for action now and to get the ball rolling.! ;)

[schlongfingers]

Jon, the whole point of a teknival is non corporate, to even entertain the idea of any kind of sponsorship completely undermines the ethos.

I'm not saying that what you suggest is a bad idea, but that you shouldn't call it a teknival when it's not :D

[schlongfingers]

If you find some land and sort it without sponsorship or paying entry, and operate an all sound systems welcome policy - like a teknival, then wicked.

Bear in mind that this is of course very illegal in the uk, and if you get caught you'll probably be buttering your arse.

[jon connor]

If you find some land and sort it without sponsorship or paying entry, and operate an all sound systems welcome policy - like a teknival, then wicked.

Bear in mind that this is of course very illegal in the uk, and if you get caught you'll probably be buttering your arse.

yes it will be dude! but you no as well as i do nothing comes for free nomore! i was thinking of more on the lines of a energy drink.i have 1 company intersted for a project im going to do in wales. now then we cant just bowl in there and run it like a big mass free party i could arrange somthing like that in a short space of time no probs,but thats just asking for trouble from authorities ive been there ive put partys on for years.we need sum proper organisation on this.....also a lot of interset from abroad to, yes they want to cum play and offer there services for free and promote there own stuff! but i would have to cough up sum flights etc in return for the favour + to be honnest i couldent afford it hens the idea of a sponsor! ;) now i dont want this to be a comersial bollox like we see at cream feilds etc! this should be a new age radical extreme event and a gathering for the people! ;)

[jon connor]

Jon, the whole point of a teknival is non corporate, to even entertain the idea of any kind of sponsorship completely undermines the ethos.

I'm not saying that what you suggest is a bad idea, but that you shouldn't call it a teknival when it's not :D

look mate the names not an issue here i just called it that coz i couldent think of anything else to explain to people wot i want to do....we will call it the gathering for now. ;) its a long way off! 2006 but if its planned right with time and effort it will happen........mabey i will do a trial version like you say in the summer! an teknovul! yea sod it ! leave it with me man...... ;)

[jon connor]

id like to ad to this to, if we can pull 50,000 people plus to this event which i dont seem to be inposible! then who the hell is going to begrudge donating a couple of quid or even a fiver! it all mounts up and will pay for 1 hell of a party.... i aint done any acounts yet but ummmmmmmmmmm!!!!!!!! how much does it cost a normal joe bloggs to go to creamfeilds/or gods kitchen etc outdoor mass rip off events....you are talking a lot of money for a ticket. so i think we can do it on a couple of quid each! + wots that for the amount of entertainment and getting absolutly ass wholed for a weekend wit ya freinds. i will have to work my nuts off to do this but who gives a toss! if it helps the uk techno scene and the music i love then so be it ill pimp me misses sell me ass wot ever it takes. im joking but you hear me dudes! ;)

[dirty_bass]

Ok, well, firstly, you can`t call it a teknival unless it is one, which it isn`t.
Teknival = Free, open rig policy, non commercial, anti authority.

So what you are proposing is a festival.

I`m all for it, but, an event of 50,000 is unlikely, not for free.
Cos you need security, a lot of it, and you are looking at about 60-100 quid per guard, per day, and roughly 100 guards.

That`s basic off the cuff figures.

Licensing, is the most important.

Exodus set the precedent for running the first free, legal festival, and getting a license, especially for a real big event is virtually impossible without masses of cash, various residents and council permissions etc.

I`d like to talk about it, but I don`t think techno alone can support something this large in this country.

However something a bit smaller and more realistic, with maybe 10, 000 max capacity, is more manageable.

[schlongfingers]

yes it will be dude! but you no as well as i do nothing comes for free nomore!

Teknivals do :D that's the point!

i was thinking of more on the lines of a energy drink.i have 1 company intersted for a project im going to do in wales. now then we cant just bowl in there and run it like a big mass free party i could arrange somthing like that in a short space of time no probs,but thats just asking for trouble from authorities ive been there ive put partys on for years.we need sum proper organisation on this.....also a lot of interset from abroad to, yes they want to cum play and offer there services for free and promote there own stuff! but i would have to cough up sum flights etc in return for the favour + to be honnest i couldent afford it hens the idea of a sponsor! ;) now i dont want this to be a comersial bollox like we see at cream feilds etc! this should be a new age radical extreme event and a gathering for the people! ;)

Sounds like a festival as DB says - steer clear of using the word teknival, you'll put a LOT of peoples noses out otherwise.

In terms of paying for flights for showcases - even Sonar doesn't do that! If people want to come and showcase they should foot the bill - don't place an unnecessary burden upon yourself geezer.

Am more than willing to help you out with this, and know loads of other who would as well - but work out what yer doing, either a pay party or a fecking rave innit :D

[jon connor]

Ok, well, firstly, you can`t call it a teknival unless it is one, which it isn`t.
Teknival = Free, open rig policy, non commercial, anti authority.

So what you are proposing is a festival.

I`m all for it, but, an event of 50,000 is unlikely, not for free.
Cos you need security, a lot of it, and you are looking at about 60-100 quid per guard, per day, and roughly 100 guards.

That`s basic off the cuff figures.

Licensing, is the most important.

Exodus set the precedent for running the first free, legal festival, and getting a license, especially for a real big event is virtually impossible without masses of cash, various residents and council permissions etc.

I`d like to talk about it, but I don`t think techno alone can support something this large in this country.

However something a bit smaller and more realistic, with maybe 10, 000 max capacity, is more manageable.

true is the whole reason i say it would need a sponsor.
this year im playing in estonia at a street rave in august. we have a promotion truck with my freinds from uk and estonia and a lot of big names playing for free,it will be a 2 day fesstival last year it pulled 70,000 people .why cant this happen in the uk. ? anyway its not about numbers i was just hypothysising(cant spell dat ) so to speak.alls im trying to encourage is somthing thats diffrent, i would like to see somthing like this happen. ;) its seems the guys abroad are kiking our ass wen it comes down to these sort of things.and fairplay to them to . :clap:

im hearing you steve. ;) anyways like i say i posted this to see if any labels etc would be interested everything else for now is not an issue.i need to no whether it would be worth going for it. ;)

so now lets hear it how many of you would be intrested ?
if its a waist of time its a waist of time so wot, we still in the same place we are now nothings changed. an idea is an idea if its a crap 1 we wont do it simple as. ;)

[FUSION]

i think thats a well good idea, its true it works in other countries so why cant it work here on a smaller scale,,,,,,,, gettin a sponser intrested is the problem as we all know theres not much money in uk techno

[jon connor]

yes it will be dude! but you no as well as i do nothing comes for free nomore!

Teknivals do :D that's the point!

i was thinking of more on the lines of a energy drink.i have 1 company intersted for a project im going to do in wales. now then we cant just bowl in there and run it like a big mass free party i could arrange somthing like that in a short space of time no probs,but thats just asking for trouble from authorities ive been there ive put partys on for years.we need sum proper organisation on this.....also a lot of interset from abroad to, yes they want to cum play and offer there services for free and promote there own stuff! but i would have to cough up sum flights etc in return for the favour + to be honnest i couldent afford it hens the idea of a sponsor! ;) now i dont want this to be a comersial bollox like we see at cream feilds etc! this should be a new age radical extreme event and a gathering for the people! ;)

Sounds like a festival as DB says - steer clear of using the word teknival, you'll put a LOT of peoples noses out otherwise.

In terms of paying for flights for showcases - even Sonar doesn't do that! If people want to come and showcase they should foot the bill - don't place an unnecessary burden upon yourself geezer.

Am more than willing to help you out with this, and know loads of other who would as well - but work out what yer doing, either a pay party or a fecking rave innit :D

ok ok ok ok :bash: stop this bloody teknovul bloody misshap! how the hell am my suposed to no its a forbiden word i explained that up there anyway ya big plonka! anyone reading this i hear by declare i made a mistake by calling it a teknovul. soryyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!!!!!!!!!!
i mean a festival of some sort yes .thanks schlongfingers cheers for the encouragement there i no many people would be interested in this to if we can get everyone off there arse this will happen. ;)

cheers man! :clap:

[jon connor]

i think thats a well good idea, its true it works in other countries so why cant it work here on a smaller scale,,,,,,,, gettin a sponser intrested is the problem as we all know theres not much money in uk techno

nope not techno but other stuff! leave dat to me. theres a lot im not saying here because ive researched a lot about this already! im just kean to hear feed back on the idea of it and wot people would offer as an input! i dont want to sit here an act like this is a single hannded effort either this should be a joint effort by all you guys and who ever.......

cheers fusion thanks for the support geeza! :clap:

[gary_human]

sounds like a really good idea.

this is what i initially thought when i read through:

Iif its gonna be three days - you wanna incorporate a lot of different types of techno or electronic music - keep it interesting - then if its advertised as an electronic festival or whatever it doesnt sound as scary to all old fogies/council who may oppose the permission. Have the proper dance stuff or head :bash: bangin stuff at nite

if you got in with a charity it may be harder for people in hierachy to 'oppose' it and every one loves doin something for chariteee mate :lol:

just a couple of ideas which came of the top of the dome :lol: :lol:

[jon connor]

sclongfingers you mentioned sonar...now then do you think it would be possible to interest someone like that for a uk thing .i no that cocoon had a big stall there + a big input last year they are somone else i wouldent mind aproaching..... ;) its people like this who are kicking ass at the moment i tell ya! even on here i see stuff about techno pride in Brazil another amazing event so wots happening here once a year ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm let me think same line up in the same events, you knows it geeza! ;)

i will even go this year i think to investigate for myself to sonar! surley we can av somthing like that in the uk? dont ya reckon.

[j sainsbury]

well , lats year my a group of people i know organised one, everyone was well hyped up about it but not very many people turned up, there was a fair few rigs there but unfortunatly this was on the same night as the storm / survival festival in wales who pull a massive crowd, there is alarge underground movement already but the crews are far to lazy an unorganised for anything to kick off now because of what has happened in the past, i know a lot of free party crews an even do free parties myself with the rig but just recenetly the police have been coming down hard on any parties, this does cause a MASSIVE problem an in the last 1 - 2 years the number of people going to parties has dropped like mad, last year there where a few good masive partes, uk tek / moot in wales in trefill quarry, a lot of people turned up to this , an it did go on for 3 days, but after the 1st night there was more systems than people an half the crew, maybe even more , went home, other partyt was blue moon moot in wales, this was huge, took abpout half an hour to walk up it with one rig every 10 meteres, again at night there was a lot of people but in the day people tend to leave,, there is no point having lots of rigs an massive parties if the punters will not turn up, its very hard to get everyone togther on one weekend doing the same thing, thats why there is a lot more smaller undergound parties that go off by different crews each weeekend,

if you look in europe the teknivals are massive an always kick off, well most the time, an they have massive systems, venues, an lots of people there for the whole time it is on, this is because they are much more close an another reason is the law over there doesnt actualy allow free parties, when they do go off they get shut down, peopel get arrested, sound systems burnt, so a lot of crews have come togtehr with the law an arranged a date or 2 each year they are allowed a party, hence this is only 1 or 2 days a year everyone is in on it, so they are massive an always kick off,


teknivals in europe are not just parties, its a culture of people an takes a whole lot more to create that than organiseing a few partis in the uk which will just end up more hassle having an organising than its worth the ris taking,

[j sainsbury]

longest thing i have ever written :lol:

[j sainsbury]

p.s

expect a uk tek this summer, ;)

[jon connor]

well , lats year my a group of people i know organised one, everyone was well hyped up about it but not very many people turned up, there was a fair few rigs there but unfortunatly this was on the same night as the storm / survival festival in wales who pull a massive crowd, there is alarge underground movement already but the crews are far to lazy an unorganised for anything to kick off now because of what has happened in the past, i know a lot of free party crews an even do free parties myself with the rig but just recenetly the police have been coming down hard on any parties, this does cause a MASSIVE problem an in the last 1 - 2 years the number of people going to parties has dropped like mad, last year there where a few good masive partes, uk tek / moot in wales in trefill quarry, a lot of people turned up to this , an it did go on for 3 days, but after the 1st night there was more systems than people an half the crew, maybe even more , went home, other partyt was blue moon moot in wales, this was huge, took abpout half an hour to walk up it with one rig every 10 meteres, again at night there was a lot of people but in the day people tend to leave,, there is no point having lots of rigs an massive parties if the punters will not turn up, its very hard to get everyone togther on one weekend doing the same thing, thats why there is a lot more smaller undergound parties that go off by different crews each weeekend,

if you look in europe the teknivals are massive an always kick off, well most the time, an they have massive systems, venues, an lots of people there for the whole time it is on, this is because they are much more close an another reason is the law over there doesnt actualy allow free parties, when they do go off they get shut down, peopel get arrested, sound systems burnt, so a lot of crews have come togtehr with the law an arranged a date or 2 each year they are allowed a party, hence this is only 1 or 2 days a year everyone is in on it, so they are massive an always kick off,


teknivals in europe are not just parties, its a culture of people an takes a whole lot more to create that than organiseing a few partis in the uk which will just end up more hassle having an organising than its worth the ris taking,

:clap:

:clap: :clap: :clap: thankyou for this post j exellent. we definatly need somthing like this in the uk.this another reason i said this couldent be run like a free partie because it would be a nightmare in this country so some organisation and lias with the law will have to be a must.