cool. cheers mr burns, you would use 3-4 loops. so you would hav a few kick drums in there then plus the 909 kick. been using the logic comp recently on perc tring to get a more techno'e sound but everyone says different things on compression wot to compress and wot not to compress. tricky 1. would some sort of valve comp get used to warm it up like vintage warmer the whole sound.