That word 'Experimental'

[miss bass]

[quote="massplanck"]

I sort of mean it in an arrangement sense too. quote]

yesh yesh

[massplanck]

i dunno. I'm not really trying to find an exect explanation when it come to using the words experiment & music together. Detfella is sorta right though. Since every piece of music is for the most part a unique thing then that must mean all music is experimental. I'll get my coat.

[dirty_bass]

This whole thread is a little picky.
In a music based on regimental rhythms and repetition.
The word experimental is easy to come by, when someone breaks from the norm.
For me, expermenting is exactly that. I try to try things I`ve never done before, and incorporate them into my music.
Call it what you will.
It`s the difference between trying to make you`re tune sound like "Dj X", or trying to find your own sound.

[massplanck]

This whole thread is a little picky.
In a music based on regimental rhythms and repetition.
The word experimental is easy to come by, when someone breaks from the norm.
For me, expermenting is exactly that. I try to try things I`ve never done before, and incorporate them into my music.
Call it what you will.
It`s the difference between trying to make you`re tune sound like "Dj X", or trying to find your own sound.

Fair enough, But I dont think that that would qualify it as 'experimental' music if you know what I mean. Dont mean to be picky just pondering and letting turds spill out my mouth as ever. Its good to talk.

Btw DB I dont feel that techno has to have regimental rhythms & lots of repetition in order to make people dance. But it helps ;)

[dirty_bass]

Experimental techno and experimental music, are 2 different things.
I got loads of experimental music, and you can`t dance to it.

I don`t feel it has to be regimental.
But for the most part, it is.

I do whole heartedly recommend that any producer trying to get ahead in techno, tries to experiment and do something different, in every session they have in the studio.
As too many people seem to try to emulate records that have already been made.

I wouldn`t say that moving the kick drum to a non "on the 4" is particularly experimental either, if you still approach it in the same way as 4x4. Which I hear a lot of people doing.

But it can help change the whole peice you are doing, if you work off of it.

You can still be innovative within the 4 to the floor format though too.

[massplanck]

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You can still be innovative within the 4 to the floor format though too.

in that case i'm waiting to hear some hard-glitch from you guys ;)

[dirty_bass]

Maybe not.

[massplanck]

Maybe not.

and why not?

[mrbenn]

Experimental music imo is music made using un tryed or new techniques. Bassically it can be anything which uses sound in a new and 'experimental' way

[SlavikSvensk]

how about some techno tracks in 6/8 or 5/4? i've got one i'm working on...amon tobin's done it on some non-dancy tracks...

[SlavikSvensk]

i love the word experimental. it's very cutting edge

[MARKEG]

i am a massive fan of experimental music. whether it is avant garde, electronic, whatever. love the word, love the ethos. it has a massive place in techno. cristian vogel (his recent stuff) and aphex twin are two massive purveyors of this sound in our genre imho. love this word, love the feeling it creates. experiment = go forward = make better.

respect to the experi mentalists!!

[V..]

yes, I think in a genre with very little experimentation, and a lot of people just emulating the artists they respect, even the slightest change from the norm, in the genre of techno, could be considered experimental.
More producers in techno should try to do their own thing, rather than try to fit in to the current "in" sound, or to emulate their heroes.