Multi Faceted Producers

**Adverse** · 09-03-2005, 02:04 PM

please define different sounds within techno.

**Adverse** · 09-03-2005, 02:07 PM

actually i know what your trying to say.. and it's still trite sorry.

being multi faceted within one sphere is just not possible it's contradiction.

damn i could go for a good patrick dsp analogy right now.

anyways..

**Jimfish** · 09-03-2005, 03:51 PM

dont be so anal man

**gumpy green** · 09-03-2005, 04:28 PM

aphex twin.

chemical bros

and i know they aint yer normal "Techno" bods but to me techno is music made with technology and they seems to be making diverse sounding shit.

most "techno" bods i know usually stick with a similar sound

cari lekebush is one that ive found that does branch right out on ocasions....his jamacan beats ep(cant remeber what its called) - its got a rasta themed sticker......think it had dub somewher in the title..

also heard the odd bit good electro/techno crossover shit form him too, as well as banging techno..

**miss bass** · 09-03-2005, 04:30 PM

Cari is

:clap:

**SlavikSvensk** · 09-03-2005, 04:57 PM

Originally Posted by Adverse

actually i know what your trying to say.. and it's still trite sorry.

being multi faceted within one sphere is just not possible it's contradiction.

damn i could go for a good patrick dsp analogy right now.

anyways..

i see both your points, but i think that many producers basically re-release the same record over and over. or, more charitably, they develop a sound and don't deviate from it. that's good if you like that sound, but i'm more interested in things that keep the overall spirit and form of techno, but play with it and try to do it in new and exciting ways, and aren't afraid to release a record outside of their comfort zone. that's rare, but great when you find it...

i think that's what antonio and jimfish are talking about...techno as techno, subgenres be damned!

**gunjack** · 09-03-2005, 05:13 PM

verse is just being negative for the sake of being negative, AGAIN. i think it is important to stay diverse, i make dark tracks, club tracks, minimal tracks, banging tracks, soulful stuff, jazz, hip hop, MAN if i had to make one style for the rest of my life i would shoot myself.

**Adverse** · 09-03-2005, 06:03 PM

Originally Posted by deafmosaic

verse is just being negative for the sake of being negative, AGAIN.

like you know thing one.

**gunjack** · 09-03-2005, 06:10 PM

reeeaaaaaooooooooow ftsch ftsch

**dirty_bass** · 09-03-2005, 06:15 PM

Yeah, that`s the whole point here.
A lot of techno producers just make the same sound, over and over again.
Particularly a lot of the new kids, who are just emulating their heroes.

I try to approach music without any labels at all. I call everything I make techno, because for me, techno is progressive electronic music.

Breaks, Dark, Housey stuff, industrial stuff, commercial and trancey, whatever.

How can anyone stick to the same sound, and the same format again and again and again, I just don`t get it.

It is a small genre if you are just making and sticking to one tiny niche within it, but for me it is a music with no boundary.

Producers in techno who are diverse for me would be.

Underworld
and erm.
Innigo Kennedy
Marco Corola
even Marco Bailey tries new stuff.
Samuel L Sessions

erm other than that I can`t think of any, that`s not to say there aren`t that many.

**The Overfiend** · 10-03-2005, 12:24 AM

I'm glad someone understood my point.
Mark, don't you have a poetry reading to go to? :lol:
You know exactly what I mean. But yeah you are the yang to my ying Adverse.

**schlongfingers** · 10-03-2005, 01:00 AM

Johannes Heil

**gumpy green** · 10-03-2005, 09:00 AM

Originally Posted by schlongfingers

Johannes Heil

good point.

**heavy beats** · 10-03-2005, 09:07 AM

I would have to go with a few of my favorites...

jesper dahlbeck (aka dj lenk, air frog, dk, hugg & pepp, the list goes on)

adam beyer

marco carola

cisco ferreira (aka the advent, mr.g, gflame, subjective, innersound, soul destroyaz)

**crime** · 10-03-2005, 09:30 AM

Have to say, yet again, Youngman is my tip for the top with diversity at the moment... Great techno and electro trax under his own name, great electronica with his "Audible" project and another new project which is under wraps at the moment.. is also pretty hot on the mike, coming from NYC obviously helping matters... Keep an eye out for a new remix he has coming on the next scandinavia, ok, it's definitely not one for the 4/4 troopers, but musically, it's really accomplished...
The point is, it takes a lot more skill to put together a track with varied instrumentation, vocals and true melodies than to put together a 1 bar techno loop, and I wouldn't consider a producer who just makes a few different styles of techno as really that diverse IMO....
it all depends what you want, records that are nice and easy to mix and sound "Pumping" on a big rig, or something that really is musically different...

**gumpy green** · 10-03-2005, 10:39 AM

Originally Posted by crime

Have to say, yet again, Youngman is my tip for the top with diversity at the moment... Great techno and electro trax under his own name, great electronica with his "Audible" project and another new project which is under wraps at the moment.. is also pretty hot on the mike, coming from NYC obviously helping matters... Keep an eye out for a new remix he has coming on the next scandinavia, ok, it's definitely not one for the 4/4 troopers, but musically, it's really accomplished...
The point is, it takes a lot more skill to put together a track with varied instrumentation, vocals and true melodies than to put together a 1 bar techno loop, and I wouldn't consider a producer who just makes a few different styles of techno as really that diverse IMO....
it all depends what you want, records that are nice and easy to mix and sound "Pumping" on a big rig, or something that really is musically different...

any audio clip for me to check?

**tioneb** · 10-03-2005, 12:53 PM

Rationnally talking paul mac has been the most diverse releasing stuff on label ranging from ongaku to warmp & coda, going through the "prime" styled labels.

Marco Carola (with his domino poject, but also on his earlier question b sides) is doing pretty well his minimal reconversion, though keeping stuck in the same formula once it works.

Beyer has done less than 5 records not sounding swedish compressed techno so i dont really take him as an example.

Beltram is quite varied though an obvious lack of taste hmmhmh Lets quote Luke Slater in the same feeling.

Except these people and a few other mantionned in this thread (Mills, Dahlback...) it is true techno producers stay in their own sound, but as a young producer, i think this is the hardest part to achieve : "make your tracks sound in a way everybody can identify its you who are producing it".
Whatever, as Adverse says, we all make techno.

To me, diversity is really more important in a dj set. A producer has to make his records coherent, create his "own sound" and is also limited with the gear he uses to produce. But a DJ only has his ears to chose what he can play, and in the amount of records he gets/buys he can try not to select the same style again and again.

**SlavikSvensk** · 10-03-2005, 05:06 PM

i think adam beyer now mainly because of records like ignition key and older ones like conceiled project pattern 1-4. otherwise, point taken. back in the late 1990s i thought he was the most formulaic of the big swedish producers...

**The Overfiend** · 10-03-2005, 07:24 PM

Paul Mac
Dirty Bass
Audio Injection
Oliver Ho

**machina** · 10-03-2005, 10:57 PM

definately johannes heil is the top of the list for me, maybe also berkovi, shufflemaster, and speedy j (if take into account his whole career and not just the last 5 releases which are all pretty similar)

machina

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