how much can techno "progress?"

[Mindful]

as a type of music, it`s nature makes it almost unlimited.

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[morphamish]

Totally its unlimited. We've got the toys to use any sound you can hear musically in any combination. Wayhay!

I reckon a lot of the time innovation in music comes from disparate elements being combined for new situations to create new and interesting forms. With techno, as someone said earlier, we have the framework to use whatever sounds we like. When we think about it, folk are shaking their arses to some pretty abstract music of a frday night a lot of the time.

It seems electronic elements seep into so many styles of music, growing new styles as they go. Then it gets sooked up by techno again and plowed back in for new forms. This process as you all know works in all the other limitless directions of music aswell. The interplay, adoption and adaptation of ideas is wicked. The machinews themselves constaly present possibilities that we hadnt thought of. There's a really good Squarepusher article he wrote about machine as collaborator. I'll try to dig it out.

Anyways, as lives evolve the music needed to express does too.
Set the controls for as far as the mind can think!

[Dirtyacid]

How much can Techno progress????



One answer as far as people want it to progress
their are so many different ideas out their people with a different out look on
techno so many ideas to be brought out of their heads it was their at the start techno it will be their at the end of dance music coz it rocks

[holotropik]

For Techno to progress there must be more use of new technology and creative abilities than just the standard "done to death" DJ mixing track to track.

There is very little uptake and acceptance of the technology available to add further dimension to the music. There is still all this talk of using the standard 'ole SL-1200s and a mixer type technique. Do you realise that the average punter has seen all this too often and is bored with it all. It is only fantastic to the DJ who thinks its fantastic to mix other peoples stuff and make some noise....too easy.

Punters react with new zeal when witness to a good live act or creative DJ who is as busy as a one-legged man in an ass kickin competition.....

TIME TO MOVE AWAY FROM THE EASY TECHNIQUES AND INTO REAL MUSICIANSHIP.

[Mirsha]

If you look at techno in the confines of the nightlub environment, then I would say it is fairly limited.

Nah it's more down to promoters geting in the same old tired acts because they are safe rather than anyrthing else. I've seen a good ew nights go off the ****ing hook when a DJ cmoes in who is prepeared to break with the regular style. You are one lucky bastard if you can catch Jerome Hill DJing in a club without ever eharing any of his sets as it jsut twists your head into a penguin shaped biscuit and forces your mind into broken paths of evil. I've seen Subhead play live at a club completely unprepared for their onslaught and seen the masses with big frowns on their faces wondering what the **** is going on as the normal service of 4/4 beats has not been played. Ignition Technition playing MC hammer? Forget it.

I do think strongly it's more something to do with club nights, people running nights tend to a particualr sound so they get that sound into their clubs because that is what they like. I've given up all hope of hearing smoeone like Marcin Czubala in a club, his shit is just not jakcing and kicking enough to keep crowd going who want pounders. It's down to the club, it comes back to the eternal money questions, regardless of how much club promoter A wants to not make monrey and keep it real, they actally have to make money to keep their dream alive and keep things turning over.

So yeah you do get the big name clubs withe the finalcial grounding to keep getting in the same old tired shit that you really don't want to go and see but you know you are going anyway just for the name, then you get clubs that are willing to push the curve a bit and are happy in the knowldge that they are doing their own shizzle and enjoying it and **** anyone who thinks it should be done a certain way.

At times like this I always point my way at a certain Edinburgh club called JakN who have done a remarkably good job of giving a shit load of people a good chance to get heard because the people runnuing are well into their music rather than getting someone who's going to get people through the door.

[GothamGrooves.com]

Technology is always changing progressing. In the short run I def see a lot of mixing ie: Dark Tribal etc.. Once they start to mesh with new machines will come new ideas... I look at things like abelton live and a whole new door is open!! imo

[dirty_bass]

If you look at techno in the confines of the nightlub environment, then I would say it is fairly limited.

Nah it's more down to promoters geting in the same old tired acts because they are safe rather than anyrthing else. I've seen a good ew nights go off the **** hook when a DJ cmoes in who is prepeared to break with the regular style. You are one lucky bastard if you can catch Jerome Hill DJing in a club without ever eharing any of his sets as it jsut twists your head into a penguin shaped biscuit and forces your mind into broken paths of evil. I've seen Subhead play live at a club completely unprepared for their onslaught and seen the masses with big frowns on their faces wondering what the **** is going on as the normal service of 4/4 beats has not been played. Ignition Technition playing MC hammer? Forget it.

I do think strongly it's more something to do with club nights, people running nights tend to a particualr sound so they get that sound into their clubs because that is what they like. I've given up all hope of hearing smoeone like Marcin Czubala in a club, his shit is just not jakcing and kicking enough to keep crowd going who want pounders. It's down to the club, it comes back to the eternal money questions, regardless of how much club promoter A wants to not make monrey and keep it real, they actally have to make money to keep their dream alive and keep things turning over.

So yeah you do get the big name clubs withe the finalcial grounding to keep getting in the same old tired shit that you really don't want to go and see but you know you are going anyway just for the name, then you get clubs that are willing to push the curve a bit and are happy in the knowldge that they are doing their own shizzle and enjoying it and **** anyone who thinks it should be done a certain way.

At times like this I always point my way at a certain Edinburgh club called JakN who have done a remarkably good job of giving a shit load of people a good chance to get heard because the people runnuing are well into their music rather than getting someone who's going to get people through the door.

You`ve missed my point
I`m talking about approaching techno as form of dance music only, has limitations.
Techno can go beyond the dancefloor.

[XIM]

TIME TO MOVE AWAY FROM THE EASY TECHNIQUES AND INTO REAL MUSICIANSHIP
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[Komplex]

It comes down to balance and taste in the end... so when its not tasty anymore for you, move on and progress yourself rather than waiting for "techno" to progress. There is enough music in this world to cover any listening, dancing or playing needs so look for other music and not just "techno".

Also quality control. It's easy to release somebody's music just because they are your friend or because it sounds sort of like *insert random big name* or they are a well known DJ and will get sales. But sometimes people aren't ready to offer something from within. Something personal. Or they are still learning how to produce well or still learning to put loops together. *Then you get hundreds of dj's making loop records because others got away with it and made sales even tho in reality, they aren't ready yet.

Art and Music vs Business = Shitty Combinaiton.

*many loop records are actually well made and serve their purpose but like with all things, only good in moderation.

[sash]

Techno can go beyond the dancefloor.

Dude that's one question i ask myself all the time. if it's not danceable but still has that techno sound, is it still techno? or does it just fall under the experimental electronica banner? I always assumed techno was the ceiling of sound exploration.....

[crime]

I think it can only progress as far as peoples acceptence of it still being techno,. i.e. once it's too different sounding, people domn't want to accept it is techno anymore...
How far can techno progress? Get back in the studio and find out... Maybe you'll come across a completely new genre in the process...