Acid Techno?

[dirty_bass]

So this forum has managed to bring together the hard tech, and the dark and experimental types, and the epctro n stuff.
But what about the acid techno people?
they seem to stay in their little corner and never say anything.
I think that is almost part of the problem with the music in a way, the people just listen to that one thing, and don`t look outside to see what else is going on.

C`mon on acid tech peoples let`s hear ya.

[ds2]

leave em to it. it's aload of old drug fuelled tripe anyway.

horse, flog and dead are 3 words that instantly come to mind.
formulaic and fodder are 2 more.

[ollie303]

i love my 303s , the sound of it still excites me, but there realy isnt much 303 music out there at the moment, hence the fact when i dj now the greater part of my set would be techno rather than acid.
music has to move foward so thats why the acid sound shifted towards the more solid techno format,
but theres a big hole in my record box and im not alone in thinking alot of the new stuff thats got acid init isnt all that great
im not dissing the new style 303 tracks there cool, im just looking for something else,maybe ive just become lost in it all.

[ollie303]

leave em to it. it's aload of old drug fuelled tripe anyway.

horse, flog and dead are 3 words that instantly come to mind.
formulaic and fodder are 2 more.

and i was going to say that techno purists cuss it at the drop of a hat, and thought no, ill leave it open for discusion and allas before id finished contructing my post someone had done it :roll:

[ds2]

and i was going to say that techno purists cuss it at the drop of a hat, and thought no, ill leave it open for discusion and allas before id finished contructing my post someone had done it :roll:

proved yourself right then :lol:

except i'm not a purest by any means. i just like good music and listen to anything from ian brown to italo disco to industrial techno. i don't like formulaic fodder even if it is "avin it!!" :roll:

[MangaFish]

every genre has its fair share of naff formulaic music thats "avin it!!" - including techno

[davethedrummer]

leave em to it. it's aload of old drug fuelled tripe anyway.

horse, flog and dead are 3 words that instantly come to mind.
formulaic and fodder are 2 more.

yeah nice one man......nice one......wise words indeed

[Stella Boy]

leave em to it. it's aload of old drug fuelled tripe anyway.

horse, flog and dead are 3 words that instantly come to mind.
formulaic and fodder are 2 more.

for someone with so much respect and passion for the scene you have suprised me with this comment

[ds2]

for someone with so much respect and passion for the scene you have suprised me with this comment

i've got passion and a deep love for good music stella boy.

i was very angry when i first got home and maybe shouldn't have gone straight on to my pc but i stand by what i said. acid techno was and always will be one small step up from hard house.

fair play to those that have moved on and are doing new things. there's some solid enough dj friendly techno coming from london these days but even alot of that stuff sounds like chris liebing from 5 years ago.

[davethedrummer]

for someone with so much respect and passion for the scene you have suprised me with this comment

i've got passion and a deep love for good music stella boy.

i was very angry when i first got home and maybe shouldn't have gone straight on to my pc but i stand by what i said. acid techno was and always will be one small step up from hard house.

fair play to those that have moved on and are doing new things. there's some solid enough dj friendly techno coming from london these days but even alot of that stuff sounds like chris liebing from 5 years ago.

and again.....
come on show us what you're made of

[tocsin]

So this forum has managed to bring together the hard tech, and the dark and experimental types, and the epctro n stuff.
But what about the acid techno people?
they seem to stay in their little corner and never say anything.
I think that is almost part of the problem with the music in a way, the people just listen to that one thing, and don`t look outside to see what else is going on.

C`mon on acid tech peoples let`s hear ya.

Hell, how do you know who's an acid person anyways?I guess you could count me as one. I definitely love acid techno but it's not the only thing I listen to. But, to be fair, as someone who has looked outside to see what else is going on, nothing coming out of techno has been exciting me too much recently when it's genre specific. I've been enjoying the stuff that's throwing everything together a lot more that I hear online. I'm hoping this might be a sign of things to come where the anal attitudes surrounding techno definitions start to disappear amongst producers and heavy listeners.

[The Germ]

Yeah!


Bring on all types of music

but the 303 will always take the cake for me

i listen to everything from punk to mahavisnu!

**** off..

[Apex Beat]

I dont listen to much of it, but I bought a nice acid techno EP by Rob Acid the other day. Main tracks quite housey but the flipside is really nice dark minimal techno, obviously with tons of acid and a massive sweeping bassline.

I personally adore the 'acid' sound, even though I'd acknowledge theres a lot of cheesy hoover shit out there. I mean look at the Analord releases, some of them are brilliant, pure acid.

[conflict]

acid was what i was into before i discovered 'techno'

not really my cuppa anymore but i'd never sell my collection.i quite like the idea of being able to do a 1996-2000classic acid techno set in ten years time

;)

[ollie303]

acid techno used to have attitude, wheres it gone?>!!!

[davethedrummer]

acid techno used to have attitude, wheres it gone?>!!!

look !
will you lot just back the f*ck up?
there are still some great acid techno releases being made
you have to look around for what you like but that's because theres a load of new labels to search through.
i don't think any of you guys have the right to an opinion about it unless you have actually listened to the latest releases!!!!!!
if you think we are all still making 303 tracks then think again , if you think the fire has gone out in london then think again , if you think the music has got boring and predictble then show me a f*cking techno record that doesn't have a formula of one kind or another!!!!!
everything we are listening to is on repeat right now anyway so why all the animosity towards acid techno??are we just easy to aim at ??
it's no wonder the acid guys don't come here really !
stay up forever is a huge collective now of people making a really broad spectrum of music on labels that half you guys probably don't even know about and as far as i'm concerned these days the term acid techno pretty much applies to all of it . and it's not just s.u.f. who are making acid techno.
acid techno IS a part of the uk techno scene whether you like it or not
so take your negative , snobby " i know better than you do " attitudes and stick them right up your ass!
these kind of comments do nothing for anyone , they are negative , and they should stop.
i never say these kind of things about any other kind of techno , so don't say it about mine please!

[The Germ]

henry acid techno has spread it's love to the USA and is well in effect here so anyone putting it down has no clue..

[AcidTrash]

I've been to a few clubs recently that outright rule out acid techno of any form and I've been bored witless. All the purist DJ's taking it as hard as possible from the first record of the night just makes me think that the DJ's really need to get laid or admit they have sexuality issues since they're playing techno so hard all the cute girls wander off and the only ones left are sweaty topless blokes on the dancefloor. The last pure techno event I went to was probably the most humourless bore ever for this very reason.

What turned me on to acid techno was its cheekyness, subliminal charm (especially DAVE and DDR) and humour (Geezer/Havok) and that doesn't really get old for me. It is essentially party music and can be deep and thoughtful and bouncey and fun. I like it because it knocks on the door of hard house at times but never crosses the threshold and then sometimes goes so deep it sounds like fast tech-house. I still find it an incredibly verstatile platform for ideas because the beat stucture allows room for sounds that wouldn't generally be permitted in the purer techno.

It seems in purer techno any sound that interferes with the dynamic of the beats is considered poor production and therefore the scene is producing some stunningly well engineered techno loops you can really show off your speakers with but very little in the way of actual ideas unless you count the odd clever fill and well placed break sample. It's intellectually intriguing sat at your studio desk but who the f*ck wants intellectually challenging last thing on a friday night in the manchester Pheonix club unless you've been sat on your arse doing nothing all week?

I consider myself to be a reasonably clever chap but the truth of the matter is that after a pint or two of stella and a couple of pills I'm just not that bright at all. I like banging noises and swooshy noises when I'm cretinously trollied and when I'm up for it I want party tunes to shake it all off not something to rhythmically scratch my beard to.

There's a lot to be said for melody dynamics my friends and that does not have to mean hard house or trance. Acid techno is the happy medium for me and I've never had any complaints from anyone except maybe the odd purist anorak and if I'm trying to impress them and not the people I'm playing to then I'm really not doing my job right.

DJ'ing is about selecting the right tune for the moment and if you have a back full of the same techno loop you can't really engineer your set to the mood of the night.

Pure techno just takes itself way too seriously trying to present itself as the more sophiosticated end of dance music. Well I've got news for you folks... pure techno never was sophisticted, never will be and isn't at the moment despite all the pretentions to the contrary. It's just as drug fuelled as hard house and acid techno.

This obession with newness and progress is largely pretentious w*nk what with all these DJ's effectively saying "I've moved past the 303 because I'm grown up and clever and too cool to break a sweat" just turns me off hard techno altogether.

Obessesion with newness over substance is something New Labour got hooked into as a mentality and look where that got us. Just cos something came out yesterday doesn't make it any better than something thats been out since 1995.

I get a lot of ribbing from other DJ's for playing acid but I'm not going to be a sheep and stop playing it just because a few beard scratchers tell me its out of date. The acid clubs in the North have been thriving for ages and yet when they get bullied into going harder tech by hordes of envious DJ's the bulk of the crowd stops turning up. I've seen it happen over the last few years to a few clubs. Pure techno is a big turn off to the party heads who want to dance and not stand around thinking about it. Any party where people aren't breaking a sweat is usually pretty lousy in my experience.

I love the way acid techno sticks out like a sore thumb when you play it at either a techno or a trance night and love it or hate it you just can't ignore it. That's why I'll keep on playing regardless of what the image concious sheep keep telling me. Slagging off acid techno because you're worried about the image it gives out is the very reason most clubs go up their own arses. Most poeple I know who like acid techno don't even bother taking acid (the drug) or wear tie die etc and aren't anything to do with the squat scene They're just people who like music with a punky ethos and a bit of spirit and attitude. If that's wrong in pure techno then I'm really not missing anything am I?

Purist attitudes to acid techno are usually lousy and pretty boring.
My ears prick up whenever I hear a TB303 in action and just because I've heard a track with a 303 in it before is no reason to discount the validity of the track I'm hearing at the time. An attitude I invariably find to be predominant round these parts.

Oh and by the way Just because your music doesn't have a 303 in it doesn't automatically make it new and innovative. In fact I've heard the same non acid shit banged out for half a decade and its just as dull now as it was then. This constant obsession with tight mixing over actual musical content just depresses me. You might as well stick a loop on and run it through an effects mixer all night.

Generally speaking of course.

[AcidTrash]

acid techno used to have attitude, wheres it gone?>!!!

look !
will you lot just back the f*ck up?

Go get em Henry!!!!!

[sash]

acid techno seems to be a lot more fun these days. straight tek is just way to serious imo. Bring on da good dj's that can mix it all up and give me a variety of emotions :)