Quote Originally Posted by darkside

by who? where do you come up with this rubbish? have the industry boffins been round again?


A well known techno producer I respect who shall remain nameless.

Quote Originally Posted by darkside

again, where do you get this from? do you just make it up as you go along hoping people will believe what you say. feel free to point me to clips of the "pure techno" you listen to cos you're obviously listening to the wrong stuff.
I'm merely going on the way my friends talk about the stuff and I really don't get how it's any more sophisticated. My mate is always banging on about stuff like construct rhythm and andreas kremer and I just don't see how it's that different from cluster style stuff.


Quote Originally Posted by darkside

and what's pure techno anyway? seems only acid heads use that phrase or they'll label people who don't like acid techno as purists. we're not purists we just don't like the same music as you. i listen to most electronic music styles. i don't listen to acid techno, trance or hardhouse. why does that make me a purist? if any group of people are purists, and i'm speaking generally, it's the acid crews who'll only listen to records made by henry cullen, pounding grooves, liberators etc. that's not a dig at those producers either before anyone gets the hump. i see it all the time where i work. people come in asking for london produced records and we do get their 12's in quite regular but if we don't have enough and try and point them to similar sounding music made by non "acid/london" producers they won't even listen to it!! ""nah mate, i only buy raw/hydraulix...""
wtf is that all about?
My definition of pure techno is the stuff I find in specialist techno shops where I can listen to half the stock and hear virtually exactly the same loop on every one with very little in the way of injected humour, style or drive.


Quote Originally Posted by AcidTrash
This obession with newness and progress is largely pretentious w*nk...
Quote Originally Posted by darkside
then all musicians since the beginning of time are pretentious wankers.
the djs you love and often wank over on here are playing alot of new styles, are they pretentious wankers too? if chris liberator dropped a new vogel or ruskin record in his set you'd call him a genius...
Can't argue with that at all.

Quote Originally Posted by AcidTrash
In fact I've heard the same non acid shit banged out for half a decade and its just as dull now as it was then.
Quote Originally Posted by darkside
if you seriously think techno hasn't progressed in the last 5 years then you really haven't been listening at all. next time you're in a record shop ignore the london or schranz section. you may surprise yourself.

I've been largely inoring shranz altogether and have only bought 3 records form the london lot in the last 3 months. I was really impressesed with a chris Leibing mix I got recently and have been looking for a particular groove like it but I'm very fussy when it comes to percussive techno.

I want more than just a cleverly spliced loop.

Quote Originally Posted by darkside
i've met you a few times pete, you're a sound guy and pretty funny too but you don't half come out with some crap sometimes. :lol:
I think most people would agree with that assesment. But it's never quiet after I inject some random bollocks into the conversation.