Acid Techno?

[AcidTrash]

ahhhhh arnt ya both sweet, i love it when a couple of people i know have heated net discussions, since i enjoy both types of techno your talking about cant make any comment here......... its defo helped my bitch of a comedown and realisation im very very skint though so cheers :lol: :lol: :lol:

Make no mistake I dig the techno too. I have nearly half the techno I've heard you play but I just don't make a habit of doing a full set of it.

[dirty_bass]

This is turning into a fight over a subjective subject.

Please, can we end this "my techno is better than your techno" rubbish.

I don`t want to lock this thread and come across like a fascist, but it would be nice to hear some more about what is going on in the scene, and what releases are about, in general on this section of the forum, Which is here for ALL TYPES OF TECHNO.

Now, I like the general, good times vibe of acid techno, but I haven`t really heard any acid releases that have done it for me.
Maybe it`s because there are few new names in acid techno?
Is there any new talent making Acid Tech that needs mentioning?

And don`t say Calver, cos I don`t think what he does is acid tech.

[ds2]

again, where do you get this from? do you just make it up as you go along hoping people will believe what you say. feel free to point me to clips of the "pure techno" you listen to cos you're obviously listening to the wrong stuff.

I'm merely going on the way my friends talk about the stuff and I really don't get how it's any more sophisticated. My mate is always banging on about stuff like construct rhythm and andreas kremer and I just don't see how it's that different from cluster style stuff.

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so basically this is an acid vs schranz argument.

i give in.


see you soon pete.

[AcidTrash]

Please, can we end this "my techno is better than your techno" rubbish.

BUT THAT'S NO FUN!!!!

And don`t say Calver, cos I don`t think what he does is acid tech.

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*shuffles and stares at feet like naughty schoolboy*

[AcidTrash]

so basically this is an acid vs schranz argument.

i give in.

hard techno and shranz are largly the same beast to me. In a small room it all sounds a bit distorted and messy.

I've got a few tracks on MB recordings and a bunch of similar stuff and althought they are very nice tribal funky grooves they don't seem to serve any real point. They have no real features or events. I like tracks to build to something. A method the funkier london stuff has in its favour.

I love a funk deep and rolling bassline and I find most acid techno more useful to acheive the sound I want to make with decks.
I always seem to get richer turntable phase shifts and flanges out of acid.

[TechMouse]

I like Techno generally, across the board.

IMHO there's always interesting stuff being done in all the little sub-genres (hard, acid, wonky, tribal, funky, schranz, whatever) and I've found myself buying loads of different kinds of tracks lately. Makes mixing more fun for me, which is ultimately the aim I guess.

imo the best label for acid techno is cluster

I was just saying the other day that I reckon Cluster is the most consistantly dependable Techno label around. In my estimation anyway.

[Oracle]

Now, I like the general, good times vibe of acid techno, but I haven`t really heard any acid releases that have done it for me.
Maybe it`s because there are few new names in acid techno?
Is there any new talent making Acid Tech that needs mentioning?

And don`t say Calver, cos I don`t think what he does is acid tech.

This is an interesting point because I think the definition of Acid Techno varies quite a bit from one individual to another. Ten years ago, I'd say it was all about the screaming 303s and the typical 707/808/909 percussion sets but over the past five years, labels such as Cluster and Hydraulix have output quality tracks that still seem to fit into the Acid Techno genre, even though there is no acid line.

Personally, I still really rate the stuff that Henry puts out and I also think that Ant is a great producer. As for Calver, yes a lot of his material is blantantly Hard House (and intentionally so), but I don't put, for example, his effort on Hydraulix 24 into this category:

http://www.bangingtunes.com/play/hydraulix24/b/

Whilst some may regard this track as "Hard House", no doubt there are others who don't. There is no right or wrong. Many people get into Techno from either a Hard House or a Trance background and the London labels such as SUF, Cluster, RAW, Hydraulix, Powertools etc invite them into the scene with dance floor friendly music. Once people begin to realise that Techno isn't mindless, repitive music, they begin to experiment and listen to other styles within the genre. Surely this is a good thing for the scene in general and these labels should be congratulated for introducing people to the music we all love.

[dirty_bass]

That Calver tune you linked isn`t hard house, it`s not oompah enough.
It`s just proper big room techno innit?
Although with the big B-line and all the little phase and flange inserts, it has been pointed out to me that it kinda sounds like DB002 and 003
And if this is the case does that mean I make hard house too?

Well, I dunno, I guess I define Acid Techno as a bit dirty, a bit cheeky, not too serious, reasonably predicatable, very danceable, heavy on the kick, and energetic. Also something that builds.

I think Hydraulix is straight techno, at least I think that is the general idea?

As a music, in acid most of the originators have moved on to other pasteurs, so some fresh blood would be cool.

Who is everyone raving about these days? or is it still basically the same London names?

[Dabble]

Is there any new talent making Acid Tech that needs mentioning?

Last week I picked up the 1st release on the new acid techno label TAB (Technical Audio Beats), run by Tony Montana. Both sides by Tony Montana & Geezer. The a side aint too bad tho I need to listen to it a few more times. I know nothing about Tony Montana, he's a new name to me, but it's a new label he's got going which could be promising, even if it is another London label, but that don't bother me, as long as the music is good it doesn't matter where it comes from.

[dirty_bass]

yeah, I mean new producers who can stand on their own feet and don`t need an engineer to make their tunes for them.

[davethedrummer]

hmmmm, I started this thread as a little light hearted way of getting the acid tech folk to join in, by poking a joking finger.
I didn`t expect it to turn into some blazing slagging match, calm down kiddies, there`s room enough for all facets of music in this world.
Can`t we interact without getting spikey?

Now on a positive note, can some people in the know please put some audio links and info of some good Acid Tech Releases in the Recommended Releases section of this forum please.

sorry
i was a bit out of line earlier
got a bit too heated :roll:

[FUSION]

yeah, I mean new producers who can stand on their own feet and don`t need an engineer to make their tunes for them.

tony dosnt use geezer to write his tunes for him, he writes em at home and takes em down to geezer to literaley give that tiny ooompth to before transfering to vinyl...... like you did for seb marx globe warmer tune steve............ ive know tony montana from T.A.B for ages his studio rocks and he certainly knows what he is doin :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: ......... although i can see that it looks like hes doin a skankadelic (no disrespect gav)

[dirty_bass]

Ok, I take that back then.
Any audio links?

[Dabble]

yeah, I mean new producers who can stand on their own feet and don`t need an engineer to make their tunes for them.

Like I said in my post, I know nothing about Tony so wouldn't actually know if he uses Geezer to engineer or not. I was just making a comment on his new label.

[acidsaturation]

Just as a slight side point, it's been really interesting reading all this in one go, having been away form the internet and the real world (i.e off work and on a bender :roll: ) for 3 days.

And very interesting from the point of view of someone who used buy lots of records to fanatically discus "the different types of techno" and probably gobshite about the one's I didn't like. Now I still go out, but seem to have lost the idea of the distinctions a bit - I go out and listen to techno that I like, and like stuff as long as it inspires me - "Acid", "Pure", "Shranz" or "what-the-feck-ever"... I don't quite understand all this anymore, but love techno...

Also laughing slightly, after talking to my girlfriend who writes for a punk zine, about the genre teasing - I think it happens in any kind of music that has a very committed "scene"... ;)

(BTW it's Acid Techno that's my first love though!)

;)

[ds2]

good acid...

http://www.music-head.de/catalog/pla...back-true.html

the misjah mix.

the original is being re-issued soon too.

[Adverse]

acid techno used to have attitude, wheres it gone?>!!!

look !
will you lot just back the f*ck up?
there are still some great acid techno releases being made
you have to look around for what you like but that's because theres a load of new labels to search through.
i don't think any of you guys have the right to an opinion about it unless you have actually listened to the latest releases!!!!!!
if you think we are all still making 303 tracks then think again , if you think the fire has gone out in london then think again , if you think the music has got boring and predictble then show me a f*cking techno record that doesn't have a formula of one kind or another!!!!!
everything we are listening to is on repeat right now anyway so why all the animosity towards acid techno??are we just easy to aim at ??
it's no wonder the acid guys don't come here really !
stay up forever is a huge collective now of people making a really broad spectrum of music on labels that half you guys probably don't even know about and as far as i'm concerned these days the term acid techno pretty much applies to all of it . and it's not just s.u.f. who are making acid techno.
acid techno IS a part of the uk techno scene whether you like it or not
so take your negative , snobby " i know better than you do " attitudes and stick them right up your ass!
these kind of comments do nothing for anyone , they are negative , and they should stop.
i never say these kind of things about any other kind of techno , so don't say it about mine please!

MUAHAHAHHAHAHA TOLD!

[Adverse]

This is turning into a fight over a subjective subject.

last time i heard anything objective in this forum.. *checks his calendar* i'll get back to you.

[The Overfiend]

This is turning into a fight over a subjective subject.

last time i heard anything objective in this forum.. *checks his calendar* i'll get back to you.

calls it as he sees em ;)

[miss bass]

It must be that time of the month for everyone