no bitchin here, just saying that vinyl adds a fatness or something that ive never got from digital, and because at the cutting stage you get professinal mastering again, theres always a certain forced quality control before it hits the street. Because we get paid for producing records through vinyl sales you can do that. Now the trouble starts when the wanna be mp3 fruityloop djs who has no quality control "cant have playing mp3" starts pumping out all there unmastered or poorly mastered fodder on the clubs. phew now thats stepping forward?. I can hardley see them paying the £200 "average" mastering price to improve there material when they wont get a penny back for it can you? i mean the place where i get my stuff done has speakers probably the same price as my studio, can you imagine the state of it? i do believe that the greed of some labels "mostly" the majors, the distributors of past and present and the shops has helped its decline, there is nothing to play with anymore in vinyl prices, ive never gotten back more than £2.00 per record so its just a case of getting the sales and a certain clientel that understands and supports this great scene, i mean look at it now How many virgin, sony, or warner backed techno releases do you see. I mean in the mid 90s warner were the main people behind harthouse, probaly because sven, hardfloor and the others were selling buckets of the vinyl they looked at another cash pot now they hardly do S***. And personally "thank" F*** for it, and whys that? iam guessing cause the moneys not in it after there raping. There probably too busy fighting over which ones gonna get the contract for the "big brother bonus cd clubs hits, with a bonus pull out nadia poster". too much sell out even from within, lets see what the next 2 years bring thats gonna be the interesting one i think