4clubbers is a site for people who go clubbing at places such as slinkys and gatecrasher etc. lee haslam is probably one of the top players in the world of commercial hard dance, his music is the drug tune is a good tune, and he is manger for tidy 2. it doesn't say anywhere in that interview that he is a leading light in the underground world of hard trance. hakka made slimilar points in his post i guess. markeg, mzone etc dont play at these clubs and the majoritey of the people at theses clubs aint the same people who frequent underground clubs. hard house, hard dance, hard trance, techno trance are all different types of music, just buy listen and enjoy what you like and let the others worry about what they buy and like ! each to there own i guess