making fruity tracks sound less fruity

[Stu Cox]

I think that 'fruity' sound comes from using the fruity samples and plugins. Step away from these and you'll be fine. As for the having to create new patterns... ctrl-shft-c duplicates the selected pattern ;) :lol:

yeah but i just find it an awkward way to work

in cubase, you just double click on the part (equivalent of a little block in the playlist in fruity, just they're all independent of the others on that "row" of the arrangement), change what i want to and it's done

automation is easy within fruity

excuses excuses..... u get out what u put in!

well exactly, if you want to work with a program, you've got to put the effort in to make it do what you want it to

it's the same with anything, some things in cubase/reason/logic etc take ages but if you don't do it then your track will suffer

i agree automation is very easy in fruity although it's easy to get confused about which pattern contains automation for what and there isn't actually a way of telling from a controller whether it has automation applied to it. also, as it's all just done by drawing on a continuous scale i'm not a massive fan of how you write the automation in fruity (have to keep redrawing it if you want to change something slightly) - i'd much rather use the point-to-point system cubase/acid use (can't remember about the others)

although i see fruity are now adopting this technique for automation on audio clips in version 5... maybe they'll apply the same to automation of controls and see the light about the playlist - if this happens i'd almost certainly go back to using it myself

but that's just me :p

[Barely Human]

although i see fruity are now adopting this technique for automation on audio clips in version 5... maybe they'll apply the same to automation of controls and see the light about the playlist - if this happens i'd almost certainly go back to using it myself

The automation clips can automate any parameter mate. And i personally think that the playlist is a brilliant. Its what sets it apart from standard sequancers.

[Dan Devious]

I LOVE FRUITY AND I WANT ITS BABIES! THANKYOU

DAN :clap:

[Dave Elyzium]

I dont think you can blame fruity for muddying tracks, in theory thats liek sayign if you sample a whole track as a one shot and play it back through fruity it will sound muddy? i dont think so....
dont scrimp on your mix, get it mixed correctly, master it properly, give it a good dose of master compression analogue processing if you can.
you cant polish a turd so get it as right as you can before mastering

[Stu Cox]

The automation clips can automate any parameter mate. And i personally think that the playlist is a brilliant. Its what sets it apart from standard sequancers.

ok at first i thought you'd misunderstood me here as i was talking about audio clips, but on second inspection - automation clips are a new thing in fruity 5 yeah? didn't know about them!

just had a look into what they can do and i'm very impressed... i now like fruity a lot more :lol: cheers for pointing that out to a daft rambling fool

but it's still got the silly playlist... ;)

i was planning to have another go at a tune in fruity soon anyway, this has just bumped that up the priority list a bit hehe

[Dan Devious]

wehay, Stu has seen the light! praise the lord! :lol:

[eyes without a face]

also u dont have to write the automation in, i record it like i would in Logic or Cubase with my midi controller keyboard, and its easy to tell which channel has automation because u can name each channel on the sequencer and u simply put ur automation on a certain channel and call it "synth auto" or "loop auto" etc etc..... ways and means son ways and means!

Fruity rocks, aint no lie!

[xfive]

I think Fruityloops is plagued by BAD MARKETING DECISIONS DUE TO ITS NAME



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The program itself ain't so bad :)

[eyes without a face]

definately, its name and interface have done it no favours id say

[Dave Elyzium]

oo but they added "Studio" to the name........so it has to be pro level! right?

[AcidTrash]

Fruity is fine and so is the render function. If your tune sounds muddy do some EQ'ing and get rid of sounds that don't serve any real purpose.

I've heard soem awesome stuff sone with fruity and it's every bit as good as Cubase. Anyone argueing to the contrary simply just doesn't know how to work it.

Do your homework with any audio package and you WILL get good results.

[Lorenzo_Shivu]

It's better to mix in another program like cubase etc..

Fruity is really 'one little' box where all the music comes from and sometimes you can hear that.

For me fruity is my little baby. I make everything with fruityloops.

[dirty_bass]

I`m not sure about the audio engine in fruity.
It`s still alittle under the standard of other sequencers.
I`ve heard a few pro`s complain about the audio engine.
I think it does add a certain archetype to finished mixes.

[Evil G]

i expect that most people who say "that sounds like fruity" either recognize a preset, or are really meaning "that sounds like somebody without much experience".

if you make your own synth patches and get into the nitty gritty of nudging midi events around to break the robotic feel that comes from a computer sequencer, fruity can sound just as good as anything else.

[rounser]

i expect that most people who say "that sounds like fruity" either recognize a preset, or are really meaning "that sounds like somebody without much experience".

That's simple to fix, though; just junk all the synths that come with FL and get used by everyone and their dog, and the "gimmicky" effects, like wavetraveller, then feed it new plugs and hook it up to external gear and your own samples. As if it's going to sound like anything but "you" after that...

[Barely Human]

I`m not sure about the audio engine in fruity.
It`s still alittle under the standard of other sequencers.
I`ve heard a few pro`s complain about the audio engine.
I think it does add a certain archetype to finished mixes.

Aye, have to agree with this as stated in my first post. The engine deffinately has its own character.

[Stu Cox]

i expect that most people who say "that sounds like fruity" either recognize a preset, or are really meaning "that sounds like somebody without much experience".

well i think it may be partly this, but to me an under-experienced producer in cubase or reason sounds different to an under-experienced producer in fruity... and i tend to still be able to tell with producers further down the line which program they use, although there's a point where you've got to ask whether just being able to tell what program it was made in actually means that it doesn't sound professional

on the rendering quality, someone put a post on another messageboard with a link to some full testing done on the sample rendering quality of fruity and it came out just as high as cubase and logic, with reason slightly further behind (if i remember correctly)...

although this doesn't mean it doesn't give it it's own characteristic sound - maybe fruity's is just slightly more recognisable

[AcidTrash]

i expect that most people who say "that sounds like fruity" either recognize a preset, or are really meaning "that sounds like somebody without much experience".

if you make your own synth patches and get into the nitty gritty of nudging midi events around to break the robotic feel that comes from a computer sequencer, fruity can sound just as good as anything else.

here here.

[John Ferraris]

I believe its healthy to have discussions like this but all to often it seems like people get bogged down by (in the grand productional scheme of things) by irrelevent details. I don't mean that in a rude way, but I really don't think it matters too much. To me, the best sounding software is the software a producer fels most comfortable using.

[AcidTrash]

I believe its healthy to have discussions like this but all to often it seems like people get bogged down by (in the grand productional scheme of things) by irrelevent details. I don't mean that in a rude way, but I really don't think it matters too much. To me, the best sounding software is the software a producer fels most comfortable using.

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