making fruity tracks sound less fruity

[massplanck]

Although I dont use fruity to make my tracks I reckon its sounds BETTER than programs like ACID & Reason and its simple to use. Your problem with people saying it sound like it was made in fruity well is probably because it WAS made in fruity. Its like some guitarist saying to another guitarist.. that sounds like a fender or a vox amp or something. Fruity just does something to the characteristics of the sound to er.. well make it sound like fruitlyloops. The key (if you are just using software) is to mix and match.. sounds from fruity/mixed with sounds\sequences from abelton/acid etc. Even better.. start collecting that hardware...

PS: The fruity playlist sucks... i gave up on it ages ago but the best tip for people who find that they are having to go back over the track to make edits is just to draw PATTERNS 1-200 in a diagonal line all the way across\down before you even start making the tune. That way you will always be able to make edits wherever is necessary without having to delete patterns and resize them.. also gets rid of the whole 'I can seeeee the break coming in 2 minutes before it does' bullshit which wrecks my head.. I hate 'seeing' my songs...!

[log:one]

i dont understand this problem with doing edits in fruity....

just ctrl+shift+C on the pattern you want to do an edit of, do the edit and plonk it in there... is that too easy for you?

[MangaFish]

i expect that most people who say "that sounds like fruity" either recognize a preset, or are really meaning "that sounds like somebody without much experience".

if you make your own synth patches and get into the nitty gritty of nudging midi events around to break the robotic feel that comes from a computer sequencer, fruity can sound just as good as anything else.

what do you mean by nudging midi events and how would i go about doing this?

[Stu Cox]

PS: The fruity playlist sucks... i gave up on it ages ago but the best tip for people who find that they are having to go back over the track to make edits is just to draw PATTERNS 1-200 in a diagonal line all the way across\down before you even start making the tune. That way you will always be able to make edits wherever is necessary without having to delete patterns and resize them.. also gets rid of the whole 'I can seeeee the break coming in 2 minutes before it does' bullshit which wrecks my head.. I hate 'seeing' my songs...!

again, that all depends how you like to work. when i used fruity i always only had one instrument or sound per pattern as i found it a lot easier to know where everything was and lay things out

i agree watching everything happen can make it harder to think of things as "music", but if this is a problem i either turn off my monitor while i listen or minimise the window :)

[JohnnyDigital]

Well.. i've heard lot's of bad stuff about frutty but there's little arguments to sustain most affirmations

Sometimes i hear some noize in my mixes but it's hard to tell were it did come from... was it really frutty fault?

although someone one day should creat a mix in frutty and another in cubase/logic using exactly the elements/vsts and figure out what wrong with it...

off course some one did it before: http://audiotests.batcave.net/article0001.htm

that article spawned a lot of controversy in some foruns...


joao

[Evil G]

i expect that most people who say "that sounds like fruity" either recognize a preset, or are really meaning "that sounds like somebody without much experience".

if you make your own synth patches and get into the nitty gritty of nudging midi events around to break the robotic feel that comes from a computer sequencer, fruity can sound just as good as anything else.

what do you mean by nudging midi events and how would i go about doing this?

i don't actually use fruity myself (but i have friends who use it and get good results) so i can't tell you specifically, but you ought to be able to either turn off "snap to grid" and move some of your hits off of the 16s or use a groove or swing quantize to do it for you.

[JohnnyDigital]

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i don't actually use fruity myself (but i have friends who use it and get good results) so i can't tell you specifically, but you ought to be able to either turn off "snap to grid" and move some of your hits off of the 16s or use a groove or swing quantize to do it for you.[/quote]


you can do that...


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