not techno

[gunjack]

thanx alot sarg!

one more, ok guys?




future paradise

[Buttman]

I do not like hiphop but I reacted on the low mixing of your rap.
Otherwise it seems like quality stuff.

[gunjack]

yeah the vocal mix on kabuki-cho is crap. i have a super ghetto way of making these tunes, once i find a better soft for digital mixing etc. it will be better, the vocal mix on future paradise i feel is the strongest of the three tunes. every day i am learning how to get the vocal mix cleaner....... plus this is all rip offs of old sould tunes.... its just for fun at this point, i eventually would like to do songs witha live band/vocalists etc.

thanx for listening!


:D

[BritishMurderBoy]

I do not like hiphop

any reasons butty?

[Buttman]

I do not like hiphop

any reasons butty?

Many..

1. Too slow and funky.
2. Too uninventive/conservative.
3. Too much focus on lyrics.
4. Almost all productions are very monotonous. Just a loop in many cases (do not try to counter this with "techno is just a loop too!", there is nothing wrong with loops as long as they not get repetitive).
5. Too much attitude (not always, but..).
And last but most importantly:
6. Listening to Hiphop music gives me nothing. Just like with pop, rock, soul, r'n'b, house etc.

[gunjack]

yeah, mr. booty doesnt like jazz or soul etc. i have given up trying to convert him at this point, whiteness isn't terminal so he should be ok... although the fact that he "gets nothing" from listening to miles or ornette is a bit troublesome.... hmmmmmm

[BritishMurderBoy]

you see the best hip hop track have a meaning behind them.... lyrics truley are key to what is otherwise a pretty homogenous back beat....

for example: the message by grandmaster flash... possibly one of the greatest songs of all time, why? because the lyrics discribe perfectly the bittersweet ironies and tourments of growing up in back 1980's urban america... now while i do not fit into any of those catagories, im not black i didt live in the 80's nor in america its a great part of history and something worth understanding.....

dan

[interferron]

you see the best hip hop track have a meaning behind them.... lyrics truley are key to what is otherwise a pretty homogenous back beat....

Yea it's true. Still, the best that really hit me today (newer tracks) are both great music and great lyrics.. I collected some/a lot of new hip hop releases a couple of years ago, but got bored pretty fast to the style "created by" mos def, talib kweli etc and imitated by some hundred other producers/mc's.

Nowadays I almost feel like more commercial hip hop is where the real experimentation and interesting ideas are, the most obvious being The Neptunes with their production. The lyrics are of course tailored for MTV playtime, but not bad, "Hot Damn" by Clipse for example.. and the beats, huh..

[Esox Lucius]

i know most of you will laugh, but missy elliot is one of my fav artists, she and her producer timbaland aren`t scared to do different stuff, her latest album "under construction" is excellent, she has an amazing voice and timbaland`s productions are always top notch.

[interferron]

i know most of you will laugh, but missy elliot is one of my fav artists, she and her producer timbaland aren`t scared to do different stuff, her latest album "under construction" is excellent, she has an amazing voice and timbaland`s productions are always top notch.

heh.. Same goes here, got that album too and it's great.

[Xtraction]

Anyone heard the Origioneel Amsterdams?

Tr3v0r

[BritishMurderBoy]

[quote="interferron talib kweli etc and imitated by some hundred other producers/mc's.

[/quote]

i think talib kewli is one of the most innovative hip hop artists around at the momment, his latest lp "quality" is quite literally quality... he draws from a great range of musical influences i love the tribal african feel i get of his beats.....

reminds me of some of the senegalese folk music my dad buys... its great