Careful here, not to get off topic, but not ALL of us are gladly giving away any rights...There are quite a bit of grass roots movements about in the US, especially on the West Coast, that directly defy the Bush Administration. My city, Portland, is the only one in the whole country that disallows the Homeland Security department to "snoop" on our residents. Some of us choose to do things like, rip off the IRS or ride a bike as opposed to driving, since we as individuals are truly powerless over the current administration (and that is the truth no matter how optimistic you are). I'm really not trying to get off topic, but i feel that the record must be set straight for believe it or not, the Americans you may see on TV or read about, don't necessarily represent the whole...Originally Posted by Evil G