haha its all getting a bit silly i must say, Pete chill man we have totally different views on what makes a worthy producer obviously and ive got way too much stuff to be getting on with than to pick out each detail, u have ur reasons for working with Alex, thats cool, i dont agree with them, thats cool too, seriously u need to learn to take criticism as well as any praise because in techno, or music in general il even say, there will always be more people dissing the stuff than praising it, there is always that few people who will just piss on ur stuff and they wont go away, so take the rough with the smooth man jesus...... i never once said u were doing this to look good, to get bookings, to get more label interest, to be able to say ive done a record with alex calver, to say say ive drank tea with alex calvers mum etc etc so dont take it as so, u know what i mean!!!

i did actually say, a couple of times throughout my posts, that i didnt think this was the case with u!!! did i not? did.... iii..... not??? yeah i did, so come on easy mate.... i know full well what goes into a record and im dealing with all that sort of stuff at the moment, i didnt say it was a solo effort? but the producer is at the heart of it, without them there wud be no music for the cutting engineer to cut, or for the artwork company to design a logo for, or the guy in the music shop to sell gear too etc etc so i know what goes into a record for sure....

come on chill out people, theres a new pope