TECHNO - i'm giving it up..

**Sunil** · 19-04-2005, 11:16 PM

Originally Posted by Apex Beat

No one seems to get booked on talent

Not always, and this is a number 1 excuse for some DJs who, quite simply, aren't good enough. That said, there's a lot of promoters who put on only themselves or their close crew without ever dreaming of giving other deserving people a chance, on the other hand there's still good promoters too. Anyway in the case of Pete, I doubt that Shine not giving him his fair dues is the reason for him quitting, although I'm sure he'd have appreciated being asked to play from time to time.

**Mirsha** · 20-04-2005, 12:25 PM

We've got a local crew who are absoloutely stunning at getting in people you have never heard of before, in fact I'm sure they trawl through mixes posted on these forums and get back to the people they think are good enough.

**neko** · 21-04-2005, 12:00 AM

fair do's pete, if its what you really want then i wish u all the best in your new course and lifestyle choice.

i've really enjoyed your mixes though, and you've made a great contribution to techno in old norn iron.

all the best mate :clap:

**eyes without a face** · 21-04-2005, 01:04 AM

thats not really true Ross, the genuine promoters worth playing for recognise talent and offer the gigs when and were due usually.... i dont know anyone who has to bitch to promoters? quite the opposite infact... if they recognise real talent ul find more often than not promoters are the ones doing the chasing...

its just not as clear cut tho as "im good so i must be playing the big clubs locally", promotion is a business for most and promoters have to think of what ur name on the flyer is gonna bring.. how many people etc and if ur relatively unknown, and with no releases or a "pro" residency as it were then chances are ur not gonna fill the club and the promoter wont book u, regardless of if u live 2 mins away or 2 days away, clubs like Shine are at the top of their game and ok yeah they should get local djs on but to say Shine not offering a gig wud lead to someone giving up is laughable for sure... if u really want things to happen itl happen with the right talent, promotion and of course a bit of good luck

**Sunil** · 21-04-2005, 01:33 AM

Originally Posted by eyes without a face

but to say Shine not offering a gig wud lead to someone giving up is laughable for sure...

I don't think anyone did, although perhaps some people picked up what I said about Shine as being the reason he was quitting or something? I think it's just an example of a well established club who know they can fill their venue with big names, and the idea of booking deserving local talent is pretty low on their list. It's a shame that Belfast can't get more alternative techno nights off the ground.. "Evolution" at Vicos for instance, was a cracking night.. absolutely amazing atmosphere in that wee place :clap:

**Orange** · 21-04-2005, 05:38 AM

i don't know you, but i'm gonna open up for you anyways cause i think big times of change can be unsettlin though they need not be...if you don't FEEL it anymore, then good on you to know your time is done and to move on...life has much to offer... and that which gives you fire in the mind can come in many forms, so if new fire comes in a new form, of course i think it is so important to find out just exactly what is callin to you askin you to come play...if i'm not feelin it, i'm definately lookin around for some new playground to explore...even if i am feelin it, i'm still lookin around cause an open mind is very cool...for in the future, if not now, likely we will all want to do something different...plus, learning somethin new can really show you what you learned about the last game you played...you get to apply your old tricks in a new trade...things change as a rule, so don't be afraid to let go...and it appears that you are not...very cool...but, also, if the fire is still there in your mind, you can try and close up shop, but damn fire may chase you down anyways...art can be like a relationship, and sometimes your art don't want to break up with you and damn art will seek you out for more lovin...and thats way cool to see manifest in your life, but you have to wait and see...so, you dunno what the future holds if you still in love but pretendin you can live without or even if you genuinely think you are finished...final thought: sometime we all get too caught up in expectations about who we think we are and what we think we deserve...and in those times it really can be for the best to break free until some time has passed and you find your equilibrium again...you are in a process of transformation...it can be very exciting to live in freedom, embrace the unknown and follow your heart...hope you don't mind all this philosophy, maybe some you can relate with, maybe some will be of help, sounds like you are recreating who you are and who you will become...but, then, its always just you anyways...i'm always just me...doesn't matter what we do...

sincerely, all the best to you...

**OriginalTechnobastard** · 21-04-2005, 11:29 AM

let him leave in peace

**Frank Dogshit** · 21-04-2005, 12:17 PM

someone said previously that pete had not played at shine before?

sure he was on the lineup middle of last year.....whos to say he wont get a return gig there?

**Boboagogo** · 21-04-2005, 03:08 PM

was only a gig in the bar. was playin autechre, nin and more xperimental stuff i think. alan simms(shine) said he only books djs he likes and i think ive heard him say a few times that he wasn't a fan of petes techno sets.

**slavestudios** · 21-04-2005, 03:33 PM

THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH SHINE & I'LL THANK EVERYONE TO LEAVE IT OUT OF THIS THREAD..

I HAVE PLAYED A BACK ROOM SET, BUT BELIEVE ME, NOT PLAYING TECHNO IN SHINE HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS MOVE..

I CANNOT STRESS THIS ENUFF...

pete

**Sunil** · 21-04-2005, 09:20 PM

I shouldn't have mentioned the Shine in this thread, it probably misled people, seems like some folk took me up the wrong way!

**slavestudios** · 22-04-2005, 12:48 AM

no worries sunil. i have no doubt you meant no harm with it..

its jus theres a certain forum that can get a bit narked at times ;)

**davethedrummer** · 22-04-2005, 01:50 AM

well if you ask me i think you're crazy
and in a round about way by posting on this forum you are asking me
so i'm telling you.....
just stop whinging and get on with it man!
for goodness sake , techno isn't something you can just give up , like fags or beer or something!!!!!!
i mean i gave up playing drums for bands but that didn't stop me from listening to rock , ska or punk or making music
and i tell you what .....you'll regret selling those tunes ( and the dex).......and don't come running to me when you realise there's no going back!
sorry man

**MARKEG** · 22-04-2005, 01:54 AM

yeah i agree. how you can post something on a forum saying 'i'm giving up techno' is beyond me. i mean all the best of luck to you mate, but you obviously weren't into it in the first place to say this on a forum.

sorry man, but that's the way i feel.

**Boboagogo** · 22-04-2005, 03:28 AM

hes simply moving on ffs. to say pete donaldson 'obviously wasnt into it in the first place' is a fukin joke. he basically was the techno scene in belfast for a long time. lost money on the majority of nights he done but still plugged away for ages bringing over big names knowing there was probably no chance he would even break even. techno in belfast is dead and petes prob just realised its time to move on instead of having it hold him back. and i cant see where he says he was gonna stop listening to it either.

**davethedrummer** · 22-04-2005, 08:31 AM

Originally Posted by Boboagogo

hes simply moving on ffs. to say pete donaldson 'obviously wasnt into it in the first place' is a fukin joke. he basically was the techno scene in belfast for a long time. lost money on the majority of nights he done but still plugged away for ages bringing over big names knowing there was probably no chance he would even break even. techno in belfast is dead and petes prob just realised its time to move on instead of having it hold him back. and i cant see where he says he was gonna stop listening to it either.

mate ....if he sells all his records ..........hows he gonna keep listening to techno????
no sorry , stopping promoting , or packing in djing in clubs i can understand , but selling everything off??? why exactly ???
i mean if i gave up djing , i'd still keep my dex , and my tunes.
'cos i love playing records at home on my own or with the missus , and theres no techno scene here in ashford but we don't care.
no i'm not saying the guy didn't put his back into it , i'm sure he did , but selling it all of , and posting it on the net , to me just looks like a big moment of delusion , and i think he'll regret it.

i want him to reconsider

so pete.....reconsider.....slow down have a cup of tea....and go through the alternatives....
and if you still think that selling all your precious vinyl , dex , the lot is the answer , then that's up to you..

and i'll still say you're crazy

**davethedrummer** · 22-04-2005, 08:41 AM

in fact i would go so far as to say
DELETE THIS THREAD PLEASE
as this is purely negative / non constructive
what would a newcomer think if he/she stumbled across a 4 page thread about giving up techno?..
no it's self absorbed , negative , unhelpful , and pointless....

steve .....mark...anyone please what do you think?

pete i am genuinely sorry that you feel the way you do
but what the hell were you thinking putting this here?

**davethedrummer** · 22-04-2005, 08:41 AM

in fact i would go so far as to say
DELETE THIS THREAD PLEASE
as this is purely negative / non constructive
what would a newcomer think if he/she stumbled across a 4 page thread about giving up techno?..
no it's self absorbed , negative , unhelpful , and pointless....

steve .....mark...anyone please what do you think?

pete i am genuinely sorry that you feel the way you do
but what the hell were you thinking putting this here?

**dirty_bass** · 22-04-2005, 09:43 AM

your probably right henry, I`ll leave it up till mid day, then it`s Locked.
Everyone has wished luck to the man, there`s no need to start fighting over it.

**crime** · 22-04-2005, 09:58 AM

well, it's all a bit toys out of the pram if you ask me...
I thought I was giving it all up a few times, when all I needed was a bit of a rest, and 6 months of doing something else got me back into it with renewed vigour, and excitment... but yeah is all a bit dramatic...

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