JEFF MILLS ESSENTIAL MIX

[Patrick]

Damn, now you've made me spot a typo and I can't edit it. I meant emotions, not motions. Oops, now that's going to bug my anally-retentive side :lol:

Anyway, I'm not sure if I'm misunderatanding what you said there about the introspective music. I don't want anyone to think for a minute I was dissing that style of music. Like yourself, Mark, I listen to it all the time in the car and at home and I do love a good shoe-gaze. It's f.ucking ace in fact. But in the context of this particular discussion, I though we were more on about techno and DJs to dance to and that was what my point was aimed at. When you're out there for a night on the tiles, just let go and get into it. That's all.

So as a producer, Mark, would I be right in guessing that you also find it very difficult to detach yourself from the process that went into creating a track ? I mean, can you after all these years producing, listen to a track just as a piece of music without analysing how it was made ? I used to find when I was trying my hand at production (badly I might add) that I fell into that trap and I'm kind of glad I don't produce any more because it now leaves me free to appreciate the piece of music as a whole without the distractions of wondering how it was produced.

As you said though, it's your job do notcie all these things. I'm just wondering if everyone else, those of us who don't do it for a living but claim to do it just for the love and as a hobby (well, maybe a bit stronger than hobby I spose), do we need to be analysing that deeply ? I'm not sure we do, and I find from my own perspective that it takes away from my enjoyment. Anyway, just some of my thoughts. What's right for one person is wrong for another.

[serox]

sorry, i would have to say i realy cant stand in a room that has poor mixing. even if he is playing 10 year old classics.
if you cant mix with 3 dechs, then dotn try?
if i try to mix with 6 and it sounds shit, is it sitll good cos i am playing good records?

i get more excited when i hear quality mixing fitting well together, ie, playing 2 or 3 hard records at the same time for a few mins.

i like it when i get records in time and can play them both till one runs out as something stops on the other etc

dunno, depends on how you liek to mix i guess, thats just my shit.

peace


/serox

[serox]

Also, its just so lame when going to these clubs that have big name (legend) DJs where you have to pay £15 to get in, then pay loads on drinks/water just to hear weak mixing with the same records as I heard played last year...
I don’t really enjoying going to see any big name DJs anymore, I would rather go to a party that is cheap, lasts longer and has more importantly, atmosphear.
Dunno, maybe I listen to the mix too much, or maybe my teacher was too good:)

[Patrick]

Also, its just so lame when going to these clubs that have big name (legend) DJs where you have to pay £15 to get in, then pay loads on drinks/water just to hear weak mixing with the same records as I heard played last year...
I don’t really enjoying going to see any big name DJs anymore, I would rather go to a party that is cheap, lasts longer and has more importantly, atmosphear.

That's admirable, man. I agree totally that there a lot of 'names' out there who are living off their reputation and don't really cut it anymore and play some really boring sets full of really poor mixes and poor tunes. I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree as to whether Mills is one of them, eh ?

But I'm totally with you about going to the smaller, cheaper parties too. Everyone should check out and support their local scene and events and check out up and coming DJs and not just rely on the established order. That's the only way the scene develops and changes imho.

[serox]

good stuff, c u at a party in london soon! :)

[death on a stick]

But I'm totally with you about going to the smaller, cheaper parties too. Everyone should check out and support their local scene and events and check out up and coming DJs and not just rely on the established order. That's the only way the scene develops and changes imho.

Damn right, and also apply the same stringent quality filters in terms of the music being played.

[serox]

well, yeh u do see some dodgy mixing at partys, but its free so it doesnt really bother me as much :)
and sometimes u can get good players...

[Jimfish]

I have to agree with you patrik re: the shoe gazing. I get a bit dissed by beard strokers myself, they dont seem to understand that as much as a peice of music, my tracks are a tool, used to make people dance. I'd be writing jazz if i wanted a bunch of twats standing around looking intelectual and stroking thier beards in a club, what is needed is dancability..
I think this comes 70/30 from the quality of the record/djs skillz.
But i have to say that sometimes a mix can transform 2 shite tunes into an amazing track that makes you just want to rip your y-fronts off and jump on top of the stack swinging em round your head like a baboon on heat. Unfortunatly this ocurrence is rare, usually it is the tracks themselves that make me do such things.

[death on a stick]

you just want to rip your y-fronts off and jump on top of the stack swinging em round your head like a baboon on heat.

you ain't from round these parts, are ya booooy?