Sven Wittekind - Serious Bitch EP - Tool Terror Records #1

**DJAmok** · 04-05-2005, 08:47 PM

There's been a lot of shit coming out lately on the german schranz market. Too many kids pressing stuff that guys like Wittekind, Kaoz or myself rejected when we got it as a demo.

But never fear.... there is new stuff by arkus p, wittekind, seema, waldhaus, viperxxl and myself coming this year, that will have a somewhat higher production standard.

btw, this release however is pretty strong I think. I dropped the cd-r a while ago and the crowd went nuts.

granted, it is a tool, but as such you can use it damn well.

**eyes without a face** · 04-05-2005, 11:36 PM

There's been a lot of shit coming out lately on the german schranz market. Too many kids pressing stuff that guys like Wittekind, Kaoz or myself rejected when we got it as a demo

this has to be ironic post of the year surely? ;)

**DJAmok** · 05-05-2005, 05:27 AM

I guess this shows that not everone is granted the priviledge to be able to hear the difference between quality hardtechno and the lesser stuff. Luckily, not everyone is quite as ignorant.

Which is why a release on Artillery will sells over 4 times as often as the beforementioned rejected shit, which is dumped on the market for quick cash.

Anyways, knowing whats coming up in the next few months, I can say for a fact, that the overall production level will rise considerably this year and that this sector is going to keep growing. And the rest of the techno scene can keep on bitching about the overall situation, or they can attempt to come up with something original, that might change things.

**eyes without a face** · 05-05-2005, 02:14 PM

yeah, because only u, sven and kaos know what good hard techno is right? :roll: ;)

one mans hard techno is another mans soft, and there is alot more original stuff going down (u did just say someone should come up with something original) which is also alot harder than say this very very average schranz release.... speed doesnt equate to hardness, and half the unknown producers on here do better quality harder techno with alot more depth...

but u say the production levels will rise this year and i hope so, because records like this have been coming out for too long now and if this schranz route is to continue for some then at least maybe things could be stepped up a gear, not for my personal enjoyment, but maybe for each artists own personal sense of achievment?

interesting post anyway :)

**DJAmok** · 05-05-2005, 04:42 PM

There are other labels out there that release quality stuff like Bitshift, but I dunno what demos they get, so I cen't say what has been rejected by them. ;)

But about your post with the unknown producers here; I've been going through the mp3s here on the forum every 3 months or so, but I might have missed something. Got any tips of unknown guys I should listen to?

**dirty_bass** · 05-05-2005, 04:53 PM

Originally Posted by DJAmok

But about your post with the unknown producers here; I've been going through the mp3s here on the forum every 3 months or so, but I might have missed something. Got any tips of unknown guys I should listen to?

Messanger.
Without a doubt.
Hard ass shit, without the need to distort the hell out of everything.
Just proper, ear slicing hard shit.

**eyes without a face** · 05-05-2005, 05:12 PM

yeah id say Brad for sure, but its a different type of hardness to the stuff u release on ur labels for sure. its not schranz and i dare say not fast enough, which is a good thing i think

Bloodstar does some wikid stuff too, Bastian Storm does some decent tougher stuff... there's a load on there have a proper look, id say Spark but i know uve hooked him up already, which is cool :)

**orac** · 05-05-2005, 05:25 PM

me me

hahahahahaha

**serox** · 06-05-2005, 10:50 AM

very boring. sounds like it was made using software only and made in about 1 hr. same pattern and same sounds.

wish people would really spend a bit more time making records rather than just dishing em out.

**serox** · 06-05-2005, 10:56 AM

Originally Posted by dirty_bass

Originally Posted by DJAmok

But about your post with the unknown producers here; I've been going through the mp3s here on the forum every 3 months or so, but I might have missed something. Got any tips of unknown guys I should listen to?

Messanger.
Without a doubt.
Hard ass shit, without the need to distort the hell out of everything.
Just proper, ear slicing hard shit.

dunno why some producers (wont say any names) think adding loads of distortion or high bpm make the record hard?

seem to be using the same kick which i think sounds like a wet fart.

**TRB** · 06-05-2005, 11:10 PM

relax guys... if u can do it better do it. ;)

if u allready did, well i hope buy your record and play.

maybe some day you can spinn here... it's better than only say bad things about the producers job.

if is crap or not, who will decide is who buy the records. if u think who bought is supid, why do u care?

get your own life.

i guess it's better.

**DJAmok** · 07-05-2005, 12:50 AM

Totally agree!

Btw, you just gave me an idea:

Here's a challenge for everyone who is complaining: Anyone who is able to make a higher quality / better hardtechno track than Witte's will qualify for an immediate release on my label. And to make it more interesting: I pay darn well ;)

Waiting for pms :clap:

**Patrick DSP** · 07-05-2005, 01:00 AM

Originally Posted by DJAmok

Totally agree!
And to make it more interesting: I pay darn well ;)

Waiting for pms :clap:

that is true, he does pay well. ben is 100% legit and solid!

(amok, are we still on for my Artillery #13)

**DJAmok** · 07-05-2005, 01:02 AM

(still on! might flip the numbers around though, i just got some nice demos last week)

**eyes without a face** · 07-05-2005, 12:47 PM

u guys are bringing it down to a "ooo my schranz is better than yours" level and its not about that....

someone posted up Sven's new record with the view of harvesting peoples opinions on it... they were gave, and just because some are negative its toys out the pram time.... im sure if everyone had knobbed the release and said it was amazing then everyone wud b much happier but fact is it doesnt work like that as im sure u know, and saying to people "oh u do better" doesnt solve things, its not a case of who does it better, its a case of trying to make those who are doing it realise that maybe they wouldnt get slagged if they kept things more interesting and fresh, hey lets be really rash and even suggest doing something non-techno as many do.....

its not about paying well either, is that an incentive? "ohh he pays well best knock him some schranz up" jeezzz..... do u think Beltram got paid well when "Energy Flash" first came when he was younger than the schranz lot? i dont....

check the filez section and if u cant find something to release on ur label in there thats better than this tool terror record then il personally eat my own hat

**FUSION** · 07-05-2005, 01:02 PM

well said scott :clap: i will have a bite of your hat 2 providing its not a beanie as they get stuck in my throut ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, at the end of the day though your tunes or label really dont fall into this catagory amok, as they are always different sounding and varied (what i own anyway) and its nice of you to stick up for sven but deep down im sure you agree this is a weak weak tune which was the hold point of the topic anyway, just to get peoples opinions on it

**eyes without a face** · 07-05-2005, 01:55 PM

no mate its a flat cap, goes down easy on its own or with a nice glass of milk

**TRB** · 07-05-2005, 02:07 PM

Sorry, but I allready understood what are you talking about. For me it's just a record, if u don't like it don't buy. ;)

I will play and I'm sure who bought and liked will play too. So you can stay with your ideia.

I use different tunes at my DJ set from producers like Henry Cullen to Glenn Wilson. And germans producer too. Here in Brasil it's possible because people feel the music and dance. We have party to every kind of Techno, so it's easy... if u don't like don't go, and have fun at another event. Or stay at your bedroom spinning with your friends.

Some german records sounds crap to me too, but If I think it's bad producion I don't buy.

Note this is what I think about the topic. It's my opinion.

**loopdon** · 07-05-2005, 02:50 PM

Originally Posted by DJAmok

Totally agree!

Btw, you just gave me an idea:

Here's a challenge for everyone who is complaining: Anyone who is able to make a higher quality / better hardtechno track than Witte's will qualify for an immediate release on my label. And to make it more interesting: I pay darn well ;)

Waiting for pms :clap:

mmmh, das nenn ich ne herausforderung

**eyes without a face** · 07-05-2005, 04:39 PM

we live in the uk, its not like we dont have partys for everykind too haha, jeez.... ur missing the point totally, it wasnt aimed at u... as i stated before, opinions were wanted on the record, opinions were given.. no one mentioned wether or not we were going to buy a copy haha

the way u are speaking its "u dont like it so ur not allowed to say its bad, but because i like it im allowed to say its good".... u can play it till the cows come home, that wasnt the question here......

:roll:

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