no ones saying its not daft, i agree it is daft, but again, and il put it in capitals just in case u miss it

OPINIONS WERE WANTED. OPINIONS WERE GIVEN. SOME OPINIONS DIDNT MATCH WITH THE "OOOOHH WE SHUD ALL KISS EACH OTHERS ARSE" MENTALITY THAT ALOT OF PEOPLE ON HERE SEEM TO ADHERE/REQUIRE IN ORDER FOR A NICE HAPPY FORUM. A DEBATE TOOK PLACE.

its that simple... re my comments on mills, i was basing my opinion on the occasions ive met Mills and the image that i have of him personally.... i dont particulary care who was the first to make loop tracks, locked grooves etc... in fact il stick my neck out and say i DONT GIVE A SHIT who invented/started either.... fact is... it can be done well, or not... in the tool terror case it was most definately, undeniably not.... the whole "these tracks were made to be mixed with others specifically i.e a tool" just doesnt wash with me personally and i never view any tracks like that, even the stuff i have on purpose maker... they are just records that someone has done in my eyes nothing more, nothing less... most electronic records are made with the view of being mixed so when someone says "ohhh its meant to be a loop, its just to mix with" then 90% of the time for me personally it means "oh i couldnt be arsed actually making something with a bit of personality and my own artistic presence".... not the case with Mills for me because to me its just good music, plain and simple