Sven Wittekind - Serious Bitch EP - Tool Terror Records #1

**eyes without a face** · 12-05-2005, 11:54 PM

well yeah to be honest i dont like seeing slaggin either, but whilst people post up new threads that are schranz based, and again no offence but especially low quality schranz, then ur gonna get both sides of the coin reply wise, and people cant expect not to get this to be honest.... we all live in different area's, have obvious, different tastes, and afterall are only human ;)

maybe those who do schranz should, as uve just rightly said, try and raise the bar a little? its been a few years of doing this stuff maybe bring something a bit more personal and exciting to the mixes?

;)

**SlavikSvensk** · 13-05-2005, 12:09 AM

Originally Posted by DJAmok

There's been a lot of shit coming out lately on the german schranz market. Too many kids pressing stuff that guys like Wittekind, Kaoz or myself rejected when we got it as a demo.

this is what Amok said.

let me paraphrase him to reiterate the point that many people here were trying to argue. and just so there is no confusion, this is obviously not slagging any individual...it's a general comment on the state of techno, and something inspired by the discussion on this thread:

There's been a lot of shit coming out lately on the techno market. Too many kids pressing stuff that should have been rejected when received as a demo.

that's what i'm saying, and i think that's what others are saying as well. nothing personal at all!

**slavestudios** · 13-05-2005, 02:24 AM

WOT THE F**K ?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ??????

IF U DONT LIKE IT, FINE..

but eyes & dirty... be aware there are many ppl who dont like wishy washy detroit melodic laden ballix ;)

jesus you ppl.... what a bunch of f**kin women..

**dirty_bass** · 13-05-2005, 03:37 AM

Originally Posted by perpetual

but eyes & dirty... be aware there are many ppl who dont like wishy washy detroit melodic laden ballix ;)

Bit of an uneducated comment.
I don`t like wishy washy detroit melodic laden ballix either.
It`s yesterdays music.

**SlavikSvensk** · 13-05-2005, 06:32 AM

Originally Posted by dirty_bass

Originally Posted by perpetual

but eyes & dirty... be aware there are many ppl who dont like wishy washy detroit melodic laden ballix ;)

Bit of an uneducated comment.
I don`t like wishy washy detroit melodic laden ballix either.
It`s yesterdays music.

sorry dirty...this is where we part ways...can't make proper future music without a proper appreciation for what made techno great in the past...and that goes for early chicago, mid-to-late 90s sweden, etc. in addition to detroit.

**dirty_bass** · 13-05-2005, 07:03 AM

Originally Posted by SlavikSvensk

Originally Posted by dirty_bass

Originally Posted by perpetual

but eyes & dirty... be aware there are many ppl who dont like wishy washy detroit melodic laden ballix ;)

Bit of an uneducated comment.
I don`t like wishy washy detroit melodic laden ballix either.
It`s yesterdays music.

sorry dirty...this is where we part ways...can't make proper future music without a proper appreciation for what made techno great in the past...and that goes for early chicago, mid-to-late 90s sweden, etc. in addition to detroit.

hehe, poop. You can make future music without ever even hearing detroit techno. There are other things of influence. For me anyway.
I never got into techno for, or from detroit.
In my personal books, it`s irrelevant to me historically. As may be the music that I look to as my history for making future music.

Joey who?

**Si the Sigh** · 13-05-2005, 07:21 AM

*Si wishes he hadn't asked for audio clips* :lol:

**The Overfiend** · 13-05-2005, 09:17 AM

Originally Posted by Sven Wittekind

LOL!!! That Topic made my Day!!! :lol:

It´s so funny what some ppl think about me, and everyone know the Way i produce... my whole Studio Park is Fruity Loops :lol: muhahahaha

But i can listen to critic, when its true... tghe most of the comments i read here are shit, sorry ...but its true!

When u dont like the Record, dont Buy it, i dont have a prob with it!
But dont try to tell ppl outside what Kind of Techno is good for them etc.
Toolterror is normally an Looptechno Label...thats why it called toolterror, also i dont know why u have something against it, because Glenn Wilson Track (just to have an example) are also 5 minutes the same loop!!!! And he uses loops more then 1 Time etc. but everyone says...oh what a **** new Track.

when u not like German Sound, dont listen to it.

The Only Guy who knows something about me here is AMOK, he speaks the truth. Thx my Friend :clap:

but damn it...maybe u like the next Record more...now keep da Peace, i am out :dontevengothere:

Don't put yourself in the same category as Glenn bro.
Defend yourself and stand by your own music, but you and your genre of beatsmithing are not on the same echelon as Glenn. Use your own music or artist friends to back up your argument.

**dirty_bass** · 13-05-2005, 09:37 AM

Originally Posted by SummerOfSam

Originally Posted by Sven Wittekind

LOL!!! That Topic made my Day!!! :lol:

It´s so funny what some ppl think about me, and everyone know the Way i produce... my whole Studio Park is Fruity Loops :lol: muhahahaha

But i can listen to critic, when its true... tghe most of the comments i read here are shit, sorry ...but its true!

When u dont like the Record, dont Buy it, i dont have a prob with it!
But dont try to tell ppl outside what Kind of Techno is good for them etc.
Toolterror is normally an Looptechno Label...thats why it called toolterror, also i dont know why u have something against it, because Glenn Wilson Track (just to have an example) are also 5 minutes the same loop!!!! And he uses loops more then 1 Time etc. but everyone says...oh what a **** new Track.

when u not like German Sound, dont listen to it.

The Only Guy who knows something about me here is AMOK, he speaks the truth. Thx my Friend :clap:

but damn it...maybe u like the next Record more...now keep da Peace, i am out :dontevengothere:

Don't put yourself in the same category as Glenn bro.
Defend yourself and stand by your own music, but you and your genre of beatsmithing are not on the same echelon as Glenn. Use your own music or artist friends to back up your argument.

I didn`t know there was an echelon in techno.
It`s subjective isn`t it.
Some people may love what glen does, others may think it`s poo.
That`s humanity that is.
Idolatry is wrong.

**slavestudios** · 13-05-2005, 10:40 AM

DB, you know what i'm gettin at...

jus cos one person dont dig a sound, doesnt mean everyone is gonna knock it...

say what u like bout that Wittekind track. it rockas.. and its got something almost everyone on this foprum doesnt..

A SENSE OF HUMOUR

**dirty_bass** · 13-05-2005, 11:05 AM

I wasn`t even talking about the wittekind track really.

**slavestudios** · 13-05-2005, 11:37 AM

Originally Posted by dirty_bass

I wasn`t even talking about the wittekind track really.

:lol:

i thought thats what the thread was about..

never mind. i'll give it up..

**DJAmok** · 13-05-2005, 12:36 PM

On the last two pages there have been some statements which have a point.

"If people were raving about it last year and this year they don't, then something is going wrong." - I totally agree. I do ask myself whether or not people just are again flocking like sheep to follow the current trend to bash hardtechno though. But that I cannot judge.

"Maybe those who do hardtechno should raise the bar a little" - Again, I agree and I've been trying my best to do so lately. So when my new records come out, please be the judge.

Peace out

**dirty_bass** · 13-05-2005, 12:42 PM

Originally Posted by DJAmok

"Maybe those who do hardtechno should raise the bar a little"

I think all of us, in all types of techno, should be constantly raising the bar, and seeking to push ourselves, sometimes even into less safe territory, not just hard techno, all techno needs to be doing this.
The only reason hardtechno gets a hard time, is becasue it became so popular that all the producing for 5 minutes kids with fruity, rather than taking label rejections and learning from them to improve. Just punted out their own stuff on cheap labels.
Of course there is good hard tech out there, and of course their is dire experimental or dark or whatever.
The fact that you have stated you are trying to raise the bar yourself, means you have the right attitude, which will separate you from the clones and the copycats in the long run of things.

**eyes without a face** · 13-05-2005, 02:11 PM

i think pete was referring to me with the wishy washy detroit thing haha, yeah sure, thats cool, i know people wont enjoy my stuff, but i know some people do, and others will.... but what i wont do is throw my toys out the pram when people pull me up for not enjoying a release... and i could back myself up anyway because i dont just do detroit-esque tracks, i have numerous releases lined up ranging from pretty much straight up house to dark techno, some tribal stuff and also a few electro bits getting sorted out so yeah a good variety no doubt...

as i said if someone wants an opinion then they'l get one, and it wont b sugar coated, if i dont like it, then i dont like it.... it doesnt affect my views on the producer, whoever it maybe, if ive enjoyed and own previous releases, it merely saddens me a little about the current quality of their output

but on the plus side some of those producers are realising things are not quite as they should/could be and are putting in more effort or at least have plans to do so, which is all good

**The Overfiend** · 13-05-2005, 02:14 PM

Originally Posted by dirty_bass

Originally Posted by SummerOfSam

Originally Posted by Sven Wittekind

LOL!!! That Topic made my Day!!! :lol:

It´s so funny what some ppl think about me, and everyone know the Way i produce... my whole Studio Park is Fruity Loops :lol: muhahahaha

But i can listen to critic, when its true... tghe most of the comments i read here are shit, sorry ...but its true!

When u dont like the Record, dont Buy it, i dont have a prob with it!
But dont try to tell ppl outside what Kind of Techno is good for them etc.
Toolterror is normally an Looptechno Label...thats why it called toolterror, also i dont know why u have something against it, because Glenn Wilson Track (just to have an example) are also 5 minutes the same loop!!!! And he uses loops more then 1 Time etc. but everyone says...oh what a **** new Track.

when u not like German Sound, dont listen to it.

The Only Guy who knows something about me here is AMOK, he speaks the truth. Thx my Friend :clap:

but damn it...maybe u like the next Record more...now keep da Peace, i am out :dontevengothere:

Don't put yourself in the same category as Glenn bro.
Defend yourself and stand by your own music, but you and your genre of beatsmithing are not on the same echelon as Glenn. Use your own music or artist friends to back up your argument.

I didn`t know there was an echelon in techno.
It`s subjective isn`t it.
Some people may love what glen does, others may think it`s poo.
That`s humanity that is.
Idolatry is wrong.

none at all to be honest im talking producer skill status

**Adverse** · 13-05-2005, 03:04 PM

Originally Posted by SummerOfSam

Originally Posted by Sven Wittekind

LOL!!! That Topic made my Day!!! :lol:

It´s so funny what some ppl think about me, and everyone know the Way i produce... my whole Studio Park is Fruity Loops :lol: muhahahaha

But i can listen to critic, when its true... tghe most of the comments i read here are shit, sorry ...but its true!

When u dont like the Record, dont Buy it, i dont have a prob with it!
But dont try to tell ppl outside what Kind of Techno is good for them etc.
Toolterror is normally an Looptechno Label...thats why it called toolterror, also i dont know why u have something against it, because Glenn Wilson Track (just to have an example) are also 5 minutes the same loop!!!! And he uses loops more then 1 Time etc. but everyone says...oh what a **** new Track.

when u not like German Sound, dont listen to it.

The Only Guy who knows something about me here is AMOK, he speaks the truth. Thx my Friend :clap:

but damn it...maybe u like the next Record more...now keep da Peace, i am out :dontevengothere:

Don't put yourself in the same category as Glenn bro.
Defend yourself and stand by your own music, but you and your genre of beatsmithing are not on the same echelon as Glenn. Use your own music or artist friends to back up your argument.

i think you need a cape defender lugo. and some theme music.

**SlavikSvensk** · 13-05-2005, 03:54 PM

Originally Posted by SummerOfSam

none at all to be honest im talking producer skill status

that's still subjective

**jon connor** · 13-05-2005, 05:12 PM

****ing blinder :clap: wooooooooooooooooooooooo! nice grinding stuff reminds me of some good old days , eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee wen i was a lad :love:

**The Overfiend** · 14-05-2005, 07:45 AM

Originally Posted by Adverse

Originally Posted by SummerOfSam

Originally Posted by Sven Wittekind

LOL!!! That Topic made my Day!!! :lol:

It´s so funny what some ppl think about me, and everyone know the Way i produce... my whole Studio Park is Fruity Loops :lol: muhahahaha

But i can listen to critic, when its true... tghe most of the comments i read here are shit, sorry ...but its true!

When u dont like the Record, dont Buy it, i dont have a prob with it!
But dont try to tell ppl outside what Kind of Techno is good for them etc.
Toolterror is normally an Looptechno Label...thats why it called toolterror, also i dont know why u have something against it, because Glenn Wilson Track (just to have an example) are also 5 minutes the same loop!!!! And he uses loops more then 1 Time etc. but everyone says...oh what a **** new Track.

when u not like German Sound, dont listen to it.

The Only Guy who knows something about me here is AMOK, he speaks the truth. Thx my Friend :clap:

but damn it...maybe u like the next Record more...now keep da Peace, i am out :dontevengothere:

Don't put yourself in the same category as Glenn bro.
Defend yourself and stand by your own music, but you and your genre of beatsmithing are not on the same echelon as Glenn. Use your own music or artist friends to back up your argument.

i think you need a cape defender lugo. and some theme music.

I think you need a bitch slap and a tutu, but I'm not saying nothing.

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