I agree Voorheez.... I have noticed a load of crap Hard Trance recently and the Tidy thing where they've been buying tunes already released on the smaller labels i.e. jumping on the bandwagon.... I remember first hearing hard trance only about 18 months ago and thinking how hard and techy it was... Thomas Trouble - Insane Asylum UNIX - Mindblowing speed.... loved it.... don't hear so much of that sort any more... but if its out there could someone point me in the right direction..... is that what the Italian stuff is like?