Samples is not exactly hip hop and techno mixed. Its use of sound in techno just like any other samples. I don't mind that. Suck da mc by Vitalferox was big and nasty. But if you look the Denza track its Wu Tang mixed with bass heavy dark keys Techno. Only really other options are cut and paste, cut and paste, or live mcing over it. I hate mcing, so I think it would ruin a good Techno song(Not that I've think you could produce any tocsin :lol: ) Hehehe