Apprently the German's have ruined techno.

**SlavikSvensk** · 04-05-2005, 07:15 PM

i agree about schranz, but i also think blaming germans for ruining techno is a bit silly, considering how much great stuff has come from there over the years. besides...techno wouldn't exist if it weren't for certain germans...

**serox** · 04-05-2005, 07:18 PM

he should be on jerry springer :lol:

**The Overfiend** · 04-05-2005, 07:38 PM

Originally Posted by SlavikSvensk

i agree about schranz, but i also think blaming germans for ruining techno is a bit silly, considering how much great stuff has come from there over the years. besides...techno wouldn't exist if it weren't for certain germans...

katz and d smith arent they german?
they frickin rule

**Jav** · 04-05-2005, 07:50 PM

Originally Posted by SlavikSvensk

but i also think blaming germans for ruining techno is a bit silly, considering how much great stuff has come from there over the years. besides...techno wouldn't exist if it weren't for certain germans...

agreed! :clap:

**DJAmok** · 04-05-2005, 07:55 PM

"Germans are ruining techno"

That just made my day :mashed: :lol:

Who is this guy and can I book him for standup comedy? I could get him tons of bookings as mc if his live is a funny as his writing :lol:

**The Overfiend** · 04-05-2005, 07:59 PM

Ben?
That's Frankie Mofriggin Bones B

**DJAmok** · 04-05-2005, 08:23 PM

I know who he is (probably the only one in Germany who does). Didn't know he was a comedian though. Funny guy. It ain't easy to make me laugh these days, but he pulled it off. :clap:

**DJAmok** · 04-05-2005, 08:31 PM

Almost as good as the ubercoolische.com site

almost ;)

**Dave Elyzium** · 04-05-2005, 08:41 PM

whether you agree or not with what Franky is sayoing you have to respect that he is challenging what he doesnt believe in and threating to serve up ass burgers on the decks....which is a hell of alot more respectable than just moaning point blank..

also agree with whoever posted - make your own and get your own - quote of the year ;) thats how we all should be playing

**serox** · 04-05-2005, 09:09 PM

Dunno why i am posting this, but just seeing what peoples thoughts over are here on what bones says...

Frankie Bones

I know I had a real salty and sarcastic rhetoric when I created this topic. There is now over 200 posts, which I thank everyone who participated. It would be obvious to assume that the scene is very much still alive, because we are all here arguing and resolving the many reasons on why everything is shit, while being in the most creative times in House Music History.......

10 years ago, Records were exclusive to DJ Culture. They are not as important as they used to be. CDR's and CD Decks have become just as important. Mp3's and Downloading has made records and collecting, not as important. Ableton and Final Scratch also have reduced records into a less favored format.

Everyone reading this has recently made a track. Or someone that is a close friend has made some tracks. You heard these peoples demo's, or you played your own. Even the worst demo's can compete with the market. The 'newies' out this week. If you take the time to listen to 100 titles, maybe 5 will be good. It is very time consuming.

As programming music goes, I have evolved into something that I feel is unique and fresh. It is a fusion of styles that is best described as polyrhythmic. Someone else had mentioned that word "Polyrhythmic" and it is what I seem to be heading for in the future. Multi-layered drums over loops. 4/4 beats with breaks and extra percussions with a sub-bass frequency, detuned vocals and lots of EFX.

There are lots of remixes going into my set. "Dominator" (DJ Ghost), "Der Klang Der Familie" (M.I.K.E.) "Plastic Dreams" (2004 mix by Jaydee), "No Way Back" (Advent). They are perfect because the old school heads get to hear a newer update, while the new school people just like what they are hearing. I would say 1/3 of my set is dedicated to these type of tracks, while 1/3 is
New and the rest which I call Re-Currents...ones that were slamming but not heard forever.

I can play like this up against any commercial trance DJ and not lose the dancefloor. Specialist Techno DJ's will not have those same results. But American Dancefloors are not looking for new
sounds, they are looking for familiar sounds from Tiesto's last mix cd.

**audioinjection** · 04-05-2005, 09:13 PM

haha, very true

**Patrick DSP** · 04-05-2005, 09:28 PM

Originally Posted by serox

Dunno why i am posting this, but just seeing what peoples thoughts over are here on what bones says...

Frankie Bones

I know I had a real salty and sarcastic rhetoric when I created this topic. There is now over 200 posts, which I thank everyone who participated. It would be obvious to assume that the scene is very much still alive, because we are all here arguing and resolving the many reasons on why everything is shit, while being in the most creative times in House Music History.......

10 years ago, Records were exclusive to DJ Culture. They are not as important as they used to be. CDR's and CD Decks have become just as important. Mp3's and Downloading has made records and collecting, not as important. Ableton and Final Scratch also have reduced records into a less favored format.

Everyone reading this has recently made a track. Or someone that is a close friend has made some tracks. You heard these peoples demo's, or you played your own. Even the worst demo's can compete with the market. The 'newies' out this week. If you take the time to listen to 100 titles, maybe 5 will be good. It is very time consuming.

As programming music goes, I have evolved into something that I feel is unique and fresh. It is a fusion of styles that is best described as polyrhythmic. Someone else had mentioned that word "Polyrhythmic" and it is what I seem to be heading for in the future. Multi-layered drums over loops. 4/4 beats with breaks and extra percussions with a sub-bass frequency, detuned vocals and lots of EFX.

There are lots of remixes going into my set. "Dominator" (DJ Ghost), "Der Klang Der Familie" (M.I.K.E.) "Plastic Dreams" (2004 mix by Jaydee), "No Way Back" (Advent). They are perfect because the old school heads get to hear a newer update, while the new school people just like what they are hearing. I would say 1/3 of my set is dedicated to these type of tracks, while 1/3 is
New and the rest which I call Re-Currents...ones that were slamming but not heard forever.

I can play like this up against any commercial trance DJ and not lose the dancefloor. Specialist Techno DJ's will not have those same results. But American Dancefloors are not looking for new
sounds, they are looking for familiar sounds from Tiesto's last mix cd.

:clap: better...

But American Dancefloors are not looking for new
sounds, they are looking for familiar sounds from Tiesto's last mix cd.

that's so very very true!!

**orac** · 04-05-2005, 10:10 PM

Heh. It's obvious that techno is going forward and for couple of years there will be for sure new genres that we can't even imagine right now. Franky don't have right saying that German is killing techno. Damn, so many good producers are from there and I don't even mean schranz producers here. If he don't like it, that's ok, he can have his own opinion, but there are so many people who love new sounds. Nobody is alfa and omega, people are different and each person likes different music and they will be listen to it, playing it and experimentating (?) with it. Let's not be narrow-minded. Techno is so fuking beatiful in every form.
(sorry for poor english)

**Daire** · 04-05-2005, 10:27 PM

Originally Posted by Heroes

frankie sounds like the usa people i get matched against on halo 2 on the xbox........

I actually burst out laughing when I read this, so true. :lol:

Though you gotta respect the man, he sounds pretty sure of himself.

**The Divide** · 04-05-2005, 10:34 PM

Quality

Where is this cut and paste from?

**Sunil** · 04-05-2005, 10:39 PM

A lot of the reference to German techno i.e. schranz, is what a lot of people are thinking anyway, Bones is just saying what many others are saying too. There's a general frustration out there amongst many producers that this style sells more than other techno.

**DJAmok** · 04-05-2005, 11:03 PM

Jealousy among techno producers about sales numbers? How utterly disturbing! Why, the thought alone offends me. :lol:

Well, I guess it remains a fact, that musicians are the biggest drama queens.

**Sunil** · 04-05-2005, 11:13 PM

Originally Posted by DJAmok

Jealousy among techno producers about sales numbers? How utterly disturbing! Why, the thought alone offends me. :lol:

Well, I guess it remains a fact, that musicians are the biggest drama queens.

Well, maybe if you felt your livelihood or label was at risk or not receiving the respect it deserved, you might be acting the drama queen too ;) It's human nature really.

**alsynthe** · 04-05-2005, 11:13 PM

i dont agree with frankie bones views. theres so much talent come out of germany. yea u are gonna get some churned out stuff, and some bad stuff, but u get that from every country not just germany. just because what is being released isnt to his taste he classes it as poor. i dont personally like his tunes and sets as they arent to my taste but i respect him for what he does even if he is very narrow minded to the full spectrum of techno.

take off the blinkers mr bones!!! theres a whole world of techno out there!!

**serox** · 04-05-2005, 11:16 PM

bones is just getting sour cos he's nearly 40 and the kids are getting booked more than him :lol: :lol:

can see him in slippers in a months time...

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