Apprently the German's have ruined techno.

[Sunil]

take off the blinkers mr bones!!! theres a whole world of techno out there!!

I'm sure he's aware of the whole world of techno out there, he just ain't into it.

[alsynthe]

take off the blinkers mr bones!!! theres a whole world of techno out there!!

I'm sure he's aware of the whole world of techno out there, he just ain't into it.

like i said it mite not be to ur taste but u still respect it. negativity in the scene will just bring it down.

[Sunil]

bones is just getting sour cos he's nearly 40 and the kids are getting booked more than him :lol: :lol:

can see him in slippers in a months time...

True. It seems he is a bit bitter alright, one thing that's hindered him in Europe though is his fee, a lot of promoters can't afford him and he doesn't have the profile in Europe to command it anymore regardless of his undoubted stature.

Tell you one thing though, Bones' records are completely rocking it now :clap:

[DJAmok]

Jealousy among techno producers about sales numbers? How utterly disturbing! Why, the thought alone offends me. :lol:


Well, I guess it remains a fact, that musicians are the biggest drama queens.

Well, maybe if you felt your livelihood or label was at risk or not receiving the respect it deserved, you might be acting the drama queen too ;) It's human nature really.

True. But then again, NO ONE in techno gets the respect they deserve. Otherwise the MTV Top 100 wouldn't be so full of crap.


Not saying one shouldn't be concerned about sales numbers. Hell, I mean, everyone's gotta eat... I just don't like it, when people compare sales numbers. Leads to jealousy and other negative emotions, which are not helpful to the music at all.

[eyes without a face]

i dont think Frankies comments are coming from a sales point of view, i think he just genuinely feels that schranz and most of that euro techno stuff is cheapening the scene that he has helped, undoubtedly, to shape....

i agree with nearly all of his points i have to say.... altho i dont have the same personal feelings towards schranz, i really dont care for it enough to get worked up over it even in a negative way...

gotta remember people like Frankie were laying down beats literaly before some of todays up and coming/new producers were even born, and thats the truth, and to see and feel that these kids are doing better than he whilst putting in about half the effort as he may feel he does, well thats gotta grate a bit for him, and he's one of the most outspoken artists around so he's going to have these outbursts...

but yeah where is it from? an interview i gather as much....

[Sunil]

True. But then again, NO ONE in techno gets the respect they deserve. Otherwise the MTV Top 100 wouldn't be so full of crap.


Not saying one shouldn't be concerned about sales numbers. Hell, I mean, everyone's gotta eat... I just don't like it, when people compare sales numbers. Leads to jealousy and other negative emotions, which are not helpful to the music at all.

Negativity isn't good on a whole, but hard words do make some people think and wake up from time to time. I'm not down with people who just slag and have nothing to back it up with, or who make no contribution to the scene... Bones does back his shit up though.

[Dave Elyzium]

what has germany got to do with this though?? surely its the mindset of the producers or DJ's in question that is the problem - not their home country??

[Sunil]

i dont think Frankies comments are coming from a sales point of view, i think he just genuinely feels that schranz and most of that euro techno stuff is cheapening the scene that he has helped, undoubtedly, to shape....

Yeah, his records seem to do fine in Europe. I think he just reckons a lot of stuff sucks...

i agree with nearly all of his points i have to say.... altho i dont have the same personal feelings towards schranz, i really dont care for it enough to get worked up over it even in a negative way...
....

Oh right, I'll quote you on that next time you lay into the new schranztastic 12" posted up in this forum :lol:

[eyes without a face]

its simply because Bones made reference to the mass upsurge of german based schranz over the past 2 years or so... most of the artists are from Germany or reside in German, well certainly the artists im sure Bones has in mind

[fresh_an_funky_design]

[/quote]And I do not need Ableton, just 2 Technics and a mixer

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[DJ Becka]

Can someone please tell me where this came from? Because I find this to be very funny.....and that's all I'm gonna say about this topic....

Just wanna know if this was an interview in a magazine-or if this was him ranting on discogs again....I really am curious......

Thanks ;)

[crbn]

Discogs. Check the topic name:

"Why has every style evolved into one big pile of shite?"

http://www.discogs.com/forums/topic?topic_id=62856

LOL! He's kind of right though. BTW I have the utmost respect for Mr Bones and all he has done for the scene over the years, but he should be careful slinging mud at Germany's producers as many of his own productions have consisted of sampled loops taken from other people's tracks. As a DJ he has right to complain, as a producer he should shut up and start writing.

[Will]

frankie sounds like the usa people i get matched against on halo 2 on the xbox........

I've heard americans, or amercan kids at least, have been spoiling peoples experiences on Xbox Live, taking the piss out of their accents and stuff, does that sort of thing happen to you then?

[Heroes]

yea they ask me when its tea time, and i tell them to get supersised, its all a load of mud jive shit really, "ill serve ya ass with shake n frie's" you know the way it works, its mainly dopehead 9th grade kids who get there world facts from CNN rather than the history books, but its all good fun

[Will]

Ah right, I remember a mate of mine went to holiday in america and kids were asking him if he knew the queen and if he was having tea with the queen and all that, sounded pretty funny, the way he told it.

[serox]

Discogs. Check the topic name:

"Why has every style evolved into one big pile of shite?"

http://www.discogs.com/forums/topic?topic_id=62856

LOL! He's kind of right though. BTW I have the utmost respect for Mr Bones and all he has done for the scene over the years, but he should be careful slinging mud at Germany's producers as many of his own productions have consisted of sampled loops taken from other people's tracks. As a DJ he has right to complain, as a producer he should shut up and start writing.

didnt know bones takes other peoples samples?

[gunjack]

he should be on jerry springer :lol:

YOU should be on Springer son.

[serox]

he should be on jerry springer :lol:

YOU should be on Springer son.

...?

[gumpy green]

well why dont one of those germans take the challenge and step up to him if what your doing is so good.

i would step up to anybody who dissed me.

[DJ Becka]

Discogs. Check the topic name:

"Why has every style evolved into one big pile of shite?"

http://www.discogs.com/forums/topic?topic_id=62856

LOL! He's kind of right though. BTW I have the utmost respect for Mr Bones and all he has done for the scene over the years, but he should be careful slinging mud at Germany's producers as many of his own productions have consisted of sampled loops taken from other people's tracks. As a DJ he has right to complain, as a producer he should shut up and start writing.

Yea...kinda figured that.....he seems to talk a lot of stuff on discogs. While I can see his point (sort of)-I really think he needs to simmer down a bit....he's starting to sound like a bitter old man....oh and another thing-he sometimes tends to act like he's the ONLY one who is responsible for the US scene-while there are a few others that helped it along with him (not saying any names here)-but at least those people arent still riding on the whole 'Storm Rave' wagon-Frankie seriously needs to move on. Oh, and he needs to stop blatently stealing other people's tracks too-like where's the originality in that? And what right does he have to complain about music being shit now, when his has always been shit? (imho) I'll probably get flack for this comment, but for once, I really dont care....I'll admit that I've never been a fan of his music-if I wanna play the bells-or any other track he's stolen, I'll just play the original. Out of that whole crew, I've always respected Adam and Heather Heart-those 2 at least know when to move on and progress with the music and not bitch about why the music sucks....

Ok....finished my rant now.....now I'm gonna go duck for cover :lol: