Apprently the German's have ruined techno.

[DJ Becka]

[quote="serox"]

didnt know bones takes other peoples samples?

Oh man....bones is the KING of stolen samples.....plastic dreams, the bells, neil landstrumm.....he's even stolen loops from Joe Beltram. Gotta give him credit though.....he has no shame in hiding the fact that he does this-but why are people so stupid to buy his records when they might already have the original?

[TechMouse]

well why dont one of those germans take the challenge and step up to him if what your doing is so good.

i would step up to anybody who dissed me.

Would you pop a cap in their ass?

[gumpy green]

na, but id step up and battle whoever and put them back in ther place...... no need for guns, if you cant do it with the music then yav lost.

if i lost tho my knife would come out. ;)

[SlavikSvensk]

yea they ask me when its tea time, and i tell them to get supersised, its all a load of mud jive shit really, "ill serve ya ass with shake n frie's" you know the way it works, its mainly dopehead 9th grade kids who get there world facts from CNN rather than the history books, but its all good fun

play splinter cell: chaos theory instead...more gentile scene, better music...none of this my-whole-sense-of-self-worth-derives-from-halo crap.

[SlavikSvensk]

Ah right, I remember a mate of mine went to holiday in america and kids were asking him if he knew the queen and if he was having tea with the queen and all that, sounded pretty funny, the way he told it.

wait...so you are saying you guys DON'T all have tea with the queen? well, i'll be damned...

;)

back to the subject...bones is a funny guy with strong opinions. he says something on modulations like "the only good bpm is 134." but he's also been around the block. tone him down by half and he has a good point.

[waldhaus]

yes, he is right. every techno record from germany is either minimalism intellectual kompakt technopop or 100% distorted dumb schranz. definately agree with his point! techno is ruined, and is dead of course.

[Dave Elyzium]

yes, he is right. every techno record from germany is either minimalism intellectual kompakt technopop or 100% distorted dumb schranz. definately agree with his point! techno is ruined, and is dead of course.

**** sake man
why dont you make some then instead of moaning about it

[Jav]

check out his releases on artillery, crowbar, toolterror, and many more ;)

[The Overfiend]

[quote="DJ Becka"]

didnt know bones takes other peoples samples?

Oh man....bones is the KING of stolen samples.....plastic dreams, the bells, neil landstrumm.....he's even stolen loops from Joe Beltram. Gotta give him credit though.....he has no shame in hiding the fact that he does this-but why are people so stupid to buy his records when they might already have the original?

Oh schnap!
But he is using the hip hop approach. I see your point, but we cant take anything away from dude.
WE ARE ALL GUILTY OF SAMPLE RIPPING.
EVERYTHING WE DO IS A SAMPLE.
Unless we beat box or use the spoons.

[orac]

yes, he is right. every techno record from germany is either minimalism intellectual kompakt technopop or 100% distorted dumb schranz. definately agree with his point! techno is ruined, and is dead of course.

hahahahahahahaha

the fresh breeze of irony

[DJ Becka]

Oh schnap!
But he is using the hip hop approach. I see your point, but we cant take anything away from dude.
WE ARE ALL GUILTY OF SAMPLE RIPPING.
EVERYTHING WE DO IS A SAMPLE.
Unless we beat box or use the spoons.

I didnt mean any disrespect really-I mean, I do give him some credit-SOME-but honestly-Bones acts like he's doing something new and inovative-when all he is really doing is stealing-oh wait, excuse me-borrowing from other people! If you wanna sample something, change it around a bit-make it your own.....dont blatently take the main hook from the bells and not even run it thru some filters or anything-then proceed to use that loop for the entire track! Again, if I wanna play the bells-I'll play the original-because it basically is the same thing-and it's better ;)

I know lots of people sample in the techno world-but I think most of the sampled stuff I've heard was at least changed around a little bit to give it a fresh breath of life.....

As for the whole hiphop approach-I dont know too much about it with regards to his career-except for maybe that one hiphouse track he did with Tommy Musto 'Dangerous on The Dancefloor'-and I have serious doubts about how legit that track is (ie-was it stolen from someone else :hmm:)....I dont care anyway-again, never was a huge fan of Bones-although I will say this-the man is a walking encyclopedia of electronic music-I can remember going into Groove and having him drop some knowledge on me....but regardless-always had much more respect for Heather and Adam ;)

[dirty_bass]

[quote="SummerOfSam"]

didnt know bones takes other peoples samples?

Oh man....bones is the KING of stolen samples.....plastic dreams, the bells, neil landstrumm.....he's even stolen loops from Joe Beltram. Gotta give him credit though.....he has no shame in hiding the fact that he does this-but why are people so stupid to buy his records when they might already have the original?

Oh schnap!
But he is using the hip hop approach. I see your point, but we cant take anything away from dude.
WE ARE ALL GUILTY OF SAMPLE RIPPING.
EVERYTHING WE DO IS A SAMPLE.
Unless we beat box or use the spoons.

Erm, dude, not everyone uses samples.

[eyes without a face]

Sunil, quote away... after hearing the sad story that was Tool Terror 1 i decided im not gonna get involved in these schranz debates anymore... it really is crap

this thread is hilarious :lol:

[SlavikSvensk]

I can remember going into Groove and having him drop some knowledge on me....

sonic groove...r.i.p.

[Mindful]

this thread is hilarious :lol:

agreed

[The Divide]

Sunil, quote away... after hearing the sad story that was Tool Terror 1 i decided im not gonna get involved in these schranz debates anymore... it really is crap

this thread is hilarious :lol:

Ey leave the tool terror alone or ill get my tool of terror out

[eyes without a face]

u are a tool Fernie haha

[Ritzi Lee]

Oh my god what a typical USA ego. :lol:

Well Mr. Bones still owns Timeline management Berlin some money.
Where did you get this message from??

[Ritzi Lee]

By the way don't understand me wrong.
The USA guys on this forum are cool.
But i'm just talking about some USA DJ's who just want to live with this kind of image like: "yeah i'm the big bad Mofo!"

[SlavikSvensk]

By the way don't understand me wrong.
The USA guys on this forum are cool.
But i'm just talking about some USA DJ's who just want to live with this kind of image like: "yeah i'm the big bad Mofo!"

i appreciate the disclaimer! yeah, you are right about some US djs, but i also think that applies to a lot of big-name or old-school djs in general.

i love the classics, but i hate the sense of entitlement...