Deaf - I have these CD's and Mike is spot on with what he's said and where his samples have come from. Please calm down mate. He's obviously trying to be as open as possible and you're being really quick to try to knock him down.

At the end of the day alot of people are using sample CD's at the moment. Chrissi and I use them. But don't use them 'raw'. We'll mangle them slightly before adding them to our 'library' of loops. I think if you don't do this, things can slip though and you can be left with a situation like this where people accuse you of stealing.

I think this is proving that as artists who really care about the music we have to look deeper. We have to search harder than ever before. This issue has brought up the subject of using sample CD's within techno in a negative light - scary seeing as though 90% of hard techno aritsts use them (I think alot of you don't actually realise how many artists work like this now).

Thanks Mike for what you've said. You didn't have to say it and I'm really pleased you've come into our community and laid your cards directly on the table. Deaf - find out about your bro's loops and let's clear this up with Mike once and for all.