well we have to agree to disagree. i truly believe chrissi and i make music that sounds unique and exciting and different. sven does the same. i don't think he uses loops at all though actually. sure it's in that 'dancefloor' category so is probably what you call 'techno by numbers' but this is what i love making. love listening to and i certainly dont copy anyone. i just make music that makes me dance, scrunch my face up and have a near heart attack and do it in a way that involves mangling up loops. you don't. fair enough. there is no arguement here. it's a difference in taste that your using as the basis to your argument here....

'Samples can be used without any processing and editing and still be made to sound original and interesting.' - ermmm....how do you do that exactly without sound like you've nicked the sample?