sorry, i´m a little bit late in this discussion, but i got an appointment.

first of all something to deafmosaic:
in a german board, boris and me DID apologize, we never used CONSCIOUSLY a loop, which has already been used in another record. the loops we were blamed for are from a record we have never possessed. i promise. there was a real loop-rip of one of sven´s records from another artist (3 loops in one track!!!) also and sven huddled it together. now sven and we are friends again,we phoned about 1hr and all the differences are cleared.
another thing is dj amok. and it isn´t of interest for me, if he is an artist from you, too. he is only a friend of sven, not directly affected in any way and called me and boris "motherf...", "dick suckers" and lots more and spread this over the boards. sorry, this is definitely NOT objective and we pull our consequences out of that.
i´m not angry about any of your statements, but please do a difference between objective discussions and insults. would you accept them? i don´t think so.

to all the others: i hope the statements of mike, boris and me did explain the most. i think we get the conclusion, that we all have to take care of our sounds, spend as much energy as we can to form our own styles and be creative and most of all respect each other. this is the only way up, the rest is just a fall off.